Cadet, ok I will buy that. Swing screen same basic shite to me really sorry you are right I should have said swing pass.

NFL teams usually copy whatever philosophy wins the superbowl so everyone will hold like mfers this year and I hope we do too. That is my concern. Cadet is fine but drops too many swing passes trying to run before he catches the ball.

And yes, Ingram is a good person but a backup running back in the NFL at best. He is slow to the hole, (Per professional NFL analyst not just me) and you can fix a lot of things but I don't think that is one of them. I think we are all gonna suffer Paytons hubris on that one.

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Posted by TutHillTiger

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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:43 pm to TutHillTiger

71 receptions 604 yards; KO: 21.3 avg; PR: 6.7 avg

Ok we will see then. Go Cadet.

You want a ban bet on Ingram cracking 1000's or having more yards to PT?

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Posted by Pendulum

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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:48 pm to TutHillTiger

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I think we are all gonna suffer Paytons hubris on that one.

bc payton was the only one who was high on ingram in the draft???

I'm not ingram apologist by any means, but like I said; expect to see heavy doses of him this season. He earned it with his play at the end of the year. (minus the one play that morphed him instantly into a "chronic fumbler"). His vision sometimes leaves something to be desired. The one play that comes to mind last season was where the o-line opened up a huge hole as he was running a stretch to the right, and he jukes like hes gonna hit it and then runs out of bounds trying to get to the corner. Then they show the replay from behind the line and it's like "What the hell man, that was the red sea parting there."

Our oline play was pretty terribad on running plays though. Improve the oline, and he might look like a superstar.

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Posted by KG5989

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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:54 pm to TutHillTiger

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He is slow to the hole, (Per professional NFL analyst not just me) and you can fix a lot of things but I don't think that is one of them.

I agree that he was slow to the hole.... then during the back end of the season this past year it looked like it all clicked. He was hitting the hole very hard. Easily the best hes looked.

And yes you can fix that by the way. Hardest thing for young guys coming into the league is reading the play when its snapped. Takes a while for the game to slow down for young players. The 2nd half of the year, it looked like the game slowed down for Ingram and he had his best stretch of his carer. Averaged 5.8ypc in November and December.

A lot of people bash on him because he hasnt lived up to the expectations that he had coming into the league. And he hasnt I agree with that. But its easy to see how much he improved during the last 2 months of the year. Running with confidence and making quick decisions.

Oh and by the way, Robinson is going to be our lead horse next year and will be a really good RB. And you can replace Sproles production. Might not be from out of the backfield. But we will be fine. Not sweating the Sproles thing at all.

Oh and you dont like that we let Sproles go and kept Ingram, who according to you is a back up RB at best... curious what kind of RB you think Sproles is? Hes a backup RB as well who has a predictable role and skill set. That was 1 of the biggest issues with our O last year. Sproles lined up at RB, but 75% of the snaps it was a pass play. And not like Sproles was out there running a full route tree. He ran a bubble, screen play, out in the flats as a safety valve, or an out and up on a LB. Pretty easy to figure out what we run depending on who is in the game for us.

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