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re: Dr. Richard Saul: ADHD Does Not Exist
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:54 pm to Camel To3
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:54 pm to Camel To3
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yeah and so is cocaine, good try, bud.
So what's your point?
There are a lot of drugs in the class II category... But they have different pharmalogical effects.
You do know what these schedule categories means right?
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:54 pm to panterica
At what point does being a terible athlete become a disease? I wasnt very good at basketball because my symptoms of not being strong or fast enough prevented me from competing the same. So i took HGH and my WHITEMANACANTAJUMP disease symptoms went away and i saw immediate improvements
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:56 pm to lsupride87
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At what point does being a terible athlete become a disease?
When everyone has to be an athlete. By the way, we established ADHD isn't a disease on page one.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:57 pm to Displaced
He said wh .. hey look, a squirrel.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 2:58 pm to panterica
quote:And everyone has to be good at school? Some people are genetically good at school, some are genetically good at sports
When everyone has to be an athlete
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:02 pm to Displaced
I agree.
ADHD is as much a sham as the fictional porn addiction discussed here last week.
ADHD is as much a sham as the fictional porn addiction discussed here last week.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:07 pm to lsupride87
I'm just humoring you. That's a terrible analogy. Everyone is forced to go to school. Getting glasses for near-sightedness to help with learning is a better analogy btw.
I could ace any test in school, but couldn't focus enough to do homework. I failed a couple high school classes with A/B test averages for that reason. Luckily that was after I had already skipped 11th grade. What's so terrible about medicine anyway? I'm pretty sure no one argued that all 4 year olds need stimulants.
I could ace any test in school, but couldn't focus enough to do homework. I failed a couple high school classes with A/B test averages for that reason. Luckily that was after I had already skipped 11th grade. What's so terrible about medicine anyway? I'm pretty sure no one argued that all 4 year olds need stimulants.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:10 pm to panterica
quote:I do not disagree with you in the fact that the medicine works. It does. 100%. But i think starting children at a young age to take medicine to mask deficiencies(whether learning,athletic, etc) is a very slippery slope. As others have said, we are attacking the "symptoms" and in no way addressing the problem
I could ace any test in school, but couldn't focus enough to do homework. I failed a couple high school classes with A/B test averages for that reason. Luckily that was after I had already skipped 11th grade. What's so terrible about medicine anyway? I'm pretty sure no one argued that all 4 year olds need stimulants.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:11 pm to Lokistale
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So what's your point?
My point is cocaine is classified as a stimulant, as well as a narcotic. Amphetamines are a stimulate and are not considered a narcotic only because they still have "clinical uses". Narcotic is a term used to describe a substance used in violation of strict government regulation. With that being said, if you have adderall that is not prescribed to you, you have a narcotic.
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You do know what these schedule categories means right?
Obviously. I am using it to show that cocaine and ADHD medications are classified the same (in terms of Pharmacokinetics)
Marijuana is a schedule I, therefore it is technically worse than all these drugs
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:18 pm to lsupride87
So what's the problem? Too many happy meals? Not enough God in school? Pills come in fun colors? Relieving the symptoms is really all we've got.
I personally think kids should get the chance to grow and develop before taking stimulants. At least until late middle school/high school when the style of work gets more tedious. For me I held off without even admitting it was a problem to anyone until near the end of college. I don't take meds currently, but there are entire days when I'm completely checked out. Other days I make up for it and then some. As an adult I'm completely ok with the idea of having a doctor handle my symptoms again as long as there are no health concerns involved.
I personally think kids should get the chance to grow and develop before taking stimulants. At least until late middle school/high school when the style of work gets more tedious. For me I held off without even admitting it was a problem to anyone until near the end of college. I don't take meds currently, but there are entire days when I'm completely checked out. Other days I make up for it and then some. As an adult I'm completely ok with the idea of having a doctor handle my symptoms again as long as there are no health concerns involved.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:19 pm to Lokistale
This thread is hilarious. A lot of you making all these ignorant statements about ADHD and jumping on this quacks bandwagon don't have kids and I'd bet non have a medical degree of even work in the mental health field.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:24 pm to Displaced
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I blame the parents who put their kids on drugs because "oh... my 7 year old cant sit still after eating pixie sticks and mcdonalds for lunch. He must have ADHD"
The doctors are cool though, right?
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