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KISS--A Look Back

Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:04 pm
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:04 pm
At the age of about 11, I owned all but 2 of the albums in KISS' discography (Dressed to Kill and Hotter than Hell). I had posters, "KISS" makeup, a poorly made Ace Frehley costume, and I was a member in good standing of the KISS Army (holding all rights, responsibilities, and privileges thereto). The highlight of my young life was getting to see KISS perform live at the Centroplex in 1978.

Well, yesterday I decided to take a trip down memory lane and listen to KISS Alive! II, which is the album that started it all for me.

HOLY shite what a disappointment. The music was terrible; singing awful; "chatter" stupid. Especially disheartening was Ace Frehley's guitar solo on his signature song "Shock Me". I couldn't believe how simple and rudimentary it was. Any 10-year-old who had had a couple years of lessons could have easily replicated that solo.

I had the sad.

TL;dr: KISS suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
Posted by DreadDub
Section 7 EE 14
Member since May 2006
652 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:42 pm to
"Going Blind" is a great song...let's face it, KISS was never about technical musical ability. They were performers who delivered entertainment not musical classics.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261684 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:42 pm to
I used to like a couple of their tunes. Black Diamond was decent. Most were pretty silly. They were fun when I was 15.
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5194 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 1:29 am to
When I was 11 (1987) they were just another hair metal band so consider yourself lucky.
Posted by Geert Hammink_43
Member since Dec 2004
4820 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 2:22 am to
quote:

At the age of about 11, I owned all but 2 of the albums in KISS' discography (Dressed to Kill and Hotter than Hell). I had posters, "KISS" makeup, a poorly made Ace Frehley costume, and I was a member in good standing of the KISS Army (holding all rights, responsibilities, and privileges thereto). The highlight of my young life was getting to see KISS perform live at the Centroplex in 1978. Well, yesterday I decided to take a trip down memory lane and listen to KISS Alive! II, which is the album that started it all for me. HOLY shite what a disappointment. The music was terrible; singing awful; "chatter" stupid. Especially disheartening was Ace Frehley's guitar solo on his signature song "Shock Me". I couldn't believe how simple and rudimentary it was. Any 10-year-old who had had a couple years of lessons could have easily replicated that solo. I had the sad. TL;dr: KISS suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.


they're rock 'n' roll not motzart. how simple are ac/dc, the rolling stones, chuck berry, the beatles, thin lizzy, free,and most other rock bands?
kiss has been a tremendous influence to many rock bands that have followed. ace, while not a very technical player is responsible for a lot of kids picking up a guitar then and are still playing today.
Clapton wasn't playing solos that were anymore complicated than what ace did.

to say the singing was awful is off base. paul had a pretty good voice through the 80's. he had range & strength. their backing vocals were only topped by a few other bands.
have you listened to what some of the singers sound like today? and you think he was awful?
rock n roll is meant to be simple & fun. and that exactly the kind of music kiss focused on making.
they never intended to be anymore.
people that want anything other than that need to stick to jazz, fusion, or classical.


Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 3/15/14 at 2:11 pm to
It ain't Beethoven, it's just fun music. Appreciate it for what it is.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22097 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 3:31 pm to
For the record, I, the OP, never said that KISS does not deserve to be in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

I did not say they weren't great entertainers;

I did not say they did not influence lots of bands (hell, I started guitar lessons because of KISS--I just didn't "get it" and my fingers were too short).

I did not say I hated KISS. In fact, they are one of my greatest childhood memories. They introduced me to the notion that music could be "mine", if you understand what I'm saying. They opened the door to one of the most important aspects of my life.

Even though their music is kind of terrible (with a few exceptions, obviously), KISS fricking rules in my book.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81740 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:18 am to
Rock and Roll Over was my first album. I thought the Kiss radio on TV played just KISS songs. I was mad at my mother for not buying it.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:15 pm to
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Hotter than Hell


Hands down, the base KISS album. The CD plays more like Garage rock and was far better than the debut album and kicks LOVE GUN and DESTROYER's Asses!

As for ALIVE II, it was good when I was young. My favorite performance on that whole album is "King of the NIghttime World."

Yes, "Shock Me" is very rudimentary and on that album it's cheese dick...especially when Paul introduces ACE. "Shock Me" would have been founded by a band like Poison or Slaughter had it never existed.

ALIVE kicks ALIVE II's arse -- album gets very bad during the 2nd half.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 7:18 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:20 pm to
Ranking my KISS tracks:

1. Got to Choose
2. Cold Gin
3. Parasite
4. Goin' Blind
5. Black Diamond
6. Firehouse
7. Hard Luck Woman
8. Mainline
9. 100,000 Years
10. Do You Love me
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