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re: Most liked / least hated big time NBA players
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:19 pm to KG5989
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:19 pm to KG5989
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Gasol is top 10 in importance to team success. Im not saying hes the best C in the game, but I would take him over Dwight. Same with Noah. I just prefer their complete game.
Points per game, Dwight is better. But not by much when you take into account the assists and points that Gasol and Noah are responsible for. And they have less turnovers than Dwight. And they arent a liabilty at the FT line like Dwight is.
Dwight is responsible for points he doesn't score, too.
He's always a threat under the basket, which opens up the floor for the other players. He has a big impact on the offense. So that line of thinking doesn't really hold water. Plus, Gasol is only averaging 1.5 more assists per game than Dwight. So it really doesn't make sense.
And Dwight has improved his free throw shooting. Dwight changed his form slightly on January 29th. Since then (15 games), he's shot 65% from the line. That's a respectable percentage for a big man, and is much better than the 49% he was shooting with the Lakers. It's part of the reason why Houston has been winning so many games as of late.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 5:20 pm
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:24 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Plus, Gasol is only averaging 1.5 more assists per game than Dwight.
If he was surrounded with a such a good shooting roster as Dwight is that # would be much higher. Plus Marc's numbers have been down because he still nowhere near 100% and Conley's shooting slump isn't helping those assist numbers.
They play two completely different styles when it comes to offense. Marc leads the league in touches in the high post, you could probably count the amount of times Dwight catches the ball in that area on one hand.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:03 pm to PrimeTime Money
Dwight averages 1.8 assists per game. While kicking out to Parsons and Harden. 2 of the best shooters in the game. You put Noah / Gasol with those guys they would average 5assists per game.
And Gasol / Noah typically are playing at the high post. Dwight is always at the low post.
Noah - 12pts and 4.8 assists. Hes responsible for at least 22pts per game. 18.4 usage rate
Gasol - 13.7pts and 3.7assists. Hes responsible for at least 21ppg. 20.6 usage rate.
Dwight - 19pts and 1.8assists. Hes responsible for at least 23ppg. 22.6 usage rate.
And Dwight averages 3.3turnovers per game. Noah - 2.3. Gasol- 1.8. Noahs assist to turnover rate is +1.99. Gasols is +1.90. Howards is 0.56.
Noah is shooting 72% from the FT. Gasol is 80%. Howard is 55%. And is a career 57% from the FT. So the odds of his % staying at 65% arent too good.
And I agree Dwight has def improved his low post moves. But still has no range at all. Dwight has made 425 FGs this year. 419 of those FGs have come from within 10ft.
Dwight - 4 years, $87.5m. Annual salary of $21.8m
Noah - 5 years $60m. Annual salary of $12m
Gasol - 4 years $57.5m. Annual salary of $14.3m
Dwight isnt worth $27m / $9m annually more than Noah or $30m / $7.5m annually more than Gasol. And just for fun, Asik contract is 3 years for $25m. Annual salary of $8.3m.
And, believe it or not, I dont dislike Dwight at all. Hes a really really good C. All of these guys are. I just prefer Noah and Gasols skill set more so than Dwights. I like a big that can play 18ft away from the basket and beat you with his mid range game. And a guy that has great vision and passing ability. And Gasol / Noah have way better contracts than Dwight does.
And Gasol / Noah typically are playing at the high post. Dwight is always at the low post.
Noah - 12pts and 4.8 assists. Hes responsible for at least 22pts per game. 18.4 usage rate
Gasol - 13.7pts and 3.7assists. Hes responsible for at least 21ppg. 20.6 usage rate.
Dwight - 19pts and 1.8assists. Hes responsible for at least 23ppg. 22.6 usage rate.
And Dwight averages 3.3turnovers per game. Noah - 2.3. Gasol- 1.8. Noahs assist to turnover rate is +1.99. Gasols is +1.90. Howards is 0.56.
Noah is shooting 72% from the FT. Gasol is 80%. Howard is 55%. And is a career 57% from the FT. So the odds of his % staying at 65% arent too good.
And I agree Dwight has def improved his low post moves. But still has no range at all. Dwight has made 425 FGs this year. 419 of those FGs have come from within 10ft.
Dwight - 4 years, $87.5m. Annual salary of $21.8m
Noah - 5 years $60m. Annual salary of $12m
Gasol - 4 years $57.5m. Annual salary of $14.3m
Dwight isnt worth $27m / $9m annually more than Noah or $30m / $7.5m annually more than Gasol. And just for fun, Asik contract is 3 years for $25m. Annual salary of $8.3m.
And, believe it or not, I dont dislike Dwight at all. Hes a really really good C. All of these guys are. I just prefer Noah and Gasols skill set more so than Dwights. I like a big that can play 18ft away from the basket and beat you with his mid range game. And a guy that has great vision and passing ability. And Gasol / Noah have way better contracts than Dwight does.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:18 pm
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