- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: NAACP Invites Rand Paul To Speak
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Posted by Message RogerTheShrubber NAACP Invites Rand Paul To Speak Maybe one day Rand will be a more PR savvy copy of his father. I doubt it, but we can hope.
I think it's interesting how in every interview about his son, Ron says that they disagree politically on a ton of topics.
1
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:29 am to CherryGarciaMan
quote:
I think it's interesting how in every interview about his son, Ron says that they disagree politically on a ton of topics.
I'm not quite sure what to make of Rand just yet, but figure he'll be revealed in the next couple of years. He's better than the alternatives at this point.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
Truth.
When he spoke about "economic free zones", it's not exactly revolutionary. They've been tried before to varying degrees of success.
While at the NAACP, he'll also talk about the war on drugs and it's affect on minorities and felonious labels.
He will do well.
When he spoke about "economic free zones", it's not exactly revolutionary. They've been tried before to varying degrees of success.
While at the NAACP, he'll also talk about the war on drugs and it's affect on minorities and felonious labels.
He will do well.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
he'll be revealed in the next couple of years.
This is what's going to happen.
Either the GOP establishment makes him cave on a few issues or he's going to make them his pack of bitches.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:35 am to CherryGarciaMan
quote:
While at the NAACP, he'll also talk about the war on drugs and it's affect on minorities and felonious labels.
Ron Paul was one of the first to get me to look at this in a different light. I think Rand is more persuasive than his father, he'll find some ears and open minds I believe.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:36 am to Sentrius
quote:
Either the GOP establishment makes him cave on a few issues or he's going to make them his pack of bitches.
The latter would really make me happy.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:41 am to RollTide4Ever
Good, hope he does it
Posted on 2/22/14 at 3:11 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
Are they going to give him a list of acceptable words and banned phraseology, or are they just going to make up their outrage de-jour after the fact.
If anyone can pull it off it is Paul though.
Romney actually did pretty well in his speech before the NAACP in 2012. Most of the MSM led their stories with reports of the boos when Romney stated clearly that he would eliminate Obamacare (which Rand Paul also wants to do - will he come out and say that?). But even the Huff Post acknowledged that he got an overall good reception:
"What you may not know is that he (Romney) got a standing ovation as he left the stage and elicited applause several times during his 25-minute address to the nation's oldest civil rights group."
Bush 43 and McCain both did well in their NAACP speeches.
It's a nothing-to-lose environment for a Republican candidate when you think about it.
The reaction to his statements about Obamacare will be the ones that really tell us whether he's looked upon "differently" by this group.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 3:26 pm to NHTIGER
quote:
Romney actually did pretty well in his speech before the NAACP in 2012. Most of the MSM led their stories with reports of the boos when Romney stated clearly that he would eliminate Obamacare (which Rand Paul also wants to do - will he come out and say that?). But even the Huff Post acknowledged that he got an overall good reception:
No he did not. That speech was more geared towards rallying his base than reaching the people in the audience. It's not just what you say, it's how you say it.
quote:
The reaction to his statements about Obamacare will be the ones that really tell us whether he's looked upon "differently" by this group
He shouldn't talk about it unless he's questioned about it, but if he does want to criticize, it he should do it tactfully and refer to it as the Affordable Care Act.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 6:31 pm to trackfan
quote:Why? Obama took ownership of ACA in the debates? Has something changed?
it he should do it tactfully and refer to it as the Affordable Care Act.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 6:45 pm to RollTide4Ever
quote:
Rand will win at least 30 percent of black vote.
no, but he does have the best chance of any of the R's of winning 15-20% of the AA vote which will be enough.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:10 pm to La Place Mike
quote:
Why? Obama took ownership of ACA in the debates? Has something changed?
As I earlier, it's not always what you say, but how you say it. W and McCain didn't get booed because they didn't show up at the NAACP convention to insult the folks. Romney had been out on the campaign trail with Donald Trump, and that put him at a disadvantage to start with, so he should have avoided even the appearance of taking a cheap shot at Obama. He wasn't asked about the A.C.A., he volunteered it. Why didn't he talk about all the things Obamacare had with Romneycare? Usually politicians don't lead with their chin when they're campaigning for votes, so I don't know why Romney did it this time unless he was trying to send a message to someone outside of the convention hall.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:25 pm to La Place Mike
quote:
Why? Obama took ownership of ACA in the debates? Has something changed?
The term is intended as a put-down. No need to go there...when you're talking to an audience, you should hit points of agreement. RP is very good at that.
If Ron Wyden were giving a speech to the PT board, he would criticize the drug war, the militirization of police, drone strikes, warrantless surveillance, bailouts, and corporate welfare. He would avoid subjects like healthcare, taxes, and global warming.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:27 pm to La Place Mike
quote:
Why? Obama took ownership of ACA in the debates? Has something changed?
Public Speaking 101
When speaking to a hostile crowd, respect the crowd, be positive\likable (This is what carried Bush and Obama through elections), establish common ground, stick to the facts , have an objective, and be aware of your own body language.
Obamacare is a derogatory term for the Affordable Care Act. Polls Confirm this.
Coming into a hostile crowd using "Obamacare" with the typical conservative tone and body language will not get him anywhere. He would of been better off not even showing up.
A hostile crowd wants to confirm their beliefs about the speaker and their ideas ; in addition, they want the speaker to fail. Remember that
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:29 pm to trackfan
Romney ran his campaign like he was trying to lose.
Rand has learned from mistakes of his father, and will run a solid campaign, as he is going up against two entrenched foes: the Democrats and the Establishment of the Republican Party. Add another to the list of enemies, the MSM.
However, his supporters (which will have learned from their experiences in 08 and 12 with his father), will be much more astute about the proceedings this time. Rand will get the Republican nomination because of his broad appeal (NAACP), political foresight that his father lacked or just didn't care about and the fervent backings of his politically experienced base.
Edited to add MSM to list of foes.
Rand has learned from mistakes of his father, and will run a solid campaign, as he is going up against two entrenched foes: the Democrats and the Establishment of the Republican Party. Add another to the list of enemies, the MSM.
However, his supporters (which will have learned from their experiences in 08 and 12 with his father), will be much more astute about the proceedings this time. Rand will get the Republican nomination because of his broad appeal (NAACP), political foresight that his father lacked or just didn't care about and the fervent backings of his politically experienced base.
Edited to add MSM to list of foes.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:38 pm to RollTide4Ever
Here are a few other comments from the NAACP President:
LINK
quote:
Miller acknowledged that many members of the GOP understand the issues facing the African-American community, but said “we just need to connect those dots and work together.”
“We’re willing to extend our hand in an effort of sincere, sincere collaboration,” Miller said. “And once we do that, I think we can come up with things that will mutually benefit the African-American community.”
LINK
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:52 pm to trackfan
I really don't know much about this Paul guy. I hope he has what it takes to beat Hilary I am not looking forward to eight years of her.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:53 pm to CherryGarciaMan
quote:
Romney ran his campaign like he was trying to lose.
I think Romney 2012 will go down as the worst run campaign in history. There was more than once I was like wtf are you doing man (picking ryan over rubio what a dumbshit move).
quote:
Rand has learned from mistakes of his father, and will run a solid campaign, as he is going up against two entrenched foes: the Democrats and the Establishment of the Republican Party. Add another to the list of enemies, the MSM.
However, his supporters (which will have learned from their experiences in 08 and 12 with his father), will be much more astute about the proceedings this time. Rand will get the Republican nomination because of his broad appeal (NAACP), political foresight that his father lacked or just didn't care about and the fervent backings of his politically experienced base.
I hope you are right. Rand seems to be a little more mainsteam than hid old man plus I think and I believe the midterms will confirm my though that the GOP voters have had enough of the mccain/bush/romney GOP. If Rand can get 15-20% of AA vote and 40-49% of hispanic vote he is the next POTUS. His biggest challenge will be the primaries though.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:56 pm to trackfan
I think the people RP will be speaking to will be very open to his message. They might even vote for him. When he speaks at Historically Black colleges, I'm sure many of the students are receptive to his message.
The problem though with GOP outreach, is that the AA community has a large percentage of voters in rural areas or inner cities, and the only message many of them will hear is what the MSM tells them on CNN...and they won't be kind to Rand no matter how well he does in his outreach and speeches to minorities.
The problem though with GOP outreach, is that the AA community has a large percentage of voters in rural areas or inner cities, and the only message many of them will hear is what the MSM tells them on CNN...and they won't be kind to Rand no matter how well he does in his outreach and speeches to minorities.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:57 pm to willthezombie
quote:
His biggest challenge will be the primaries though
And that's where Papa Paul's supporters come in, because like it or not, he will be the closest thing to his father on the national stage.
His dad's supporters + middle of the road Republicans + new, moving base of conservatives = Primary Win.
And, his Dad's supporters learned a thing or two from the last two primaries.
Page 4 of 10
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News