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Why is Classic Rock so Much Cooler than Modern Rock?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 12:27 am
Posted on 2/10/14 at 12:27 am
Is it because they have so much more charisma than the modern guys? I mean honestly the music back then sounded so much better than now. It was actually cool.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 12:34 am to TigerFanInSouthland
disco biscuits>the Beatles
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:21 am to TigerFanInSouthland
I don't know if it was necessarily better or cooler. It's just that you don't have to sift through all of the shitty music to find the good classic rock. We know, looking back, who is worth listening too (Beatles, Zep, Doors, Beach Boys...). Nowadays, you have to listen to the good stuff, and the shitty stuff to figure out what is worth listening to. So, it just waters everything down, or so it seems.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:23 am to uglycasanova7
LSD was way better back then
It just hasn't been the same since Jerry died, maaaaaaaaan
It just hasn't been the same since Jerry died, maaaaaaaaan
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:54 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:16 am to TigerFanInSouthland
I don't share your assumption. I actually can't stand a lot of classic rock.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:24 am to TigerFanInSouthland
It's not cooler. Classic rock is such a give up.
Now, let's be clear, there are plenty of older bands who are great. I love the Stones and have a lot of their old records. Big fan. I'm not saying older rock music, I'm saying identifying as a "classic rock" fan is a complete give up. It's saying that you just take received wisdom and accept it. It's like saying you'll just wait for other people to tell you what is good.
I like rock n roll. Old, new, whatever. Doesn't matter. There is no genre of classic rock. That's just repackaged oldies. There's plenty of great bands throughout history. Go find them. It will be a lot of fun.
Now, let's be clear, there are plenty of older bands who are great. I love the Stones and have a lot of their old records. Big fan. I'm not saying older rock music, I'm saying identifying as a "classic rock" fan is a complete give up. It's saying that you just take received wisdom and accept it. It's like saying you'll just wait for other people to tell you what is good.
I like rock n roll. Old, new, whatever. Doesn't matter. There is no genre of classic rock. That's just repackaged oldies. There's plenty of great bands throughout history. Go find them. It will be a lot of fun.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:34 am to Baloo
Classic Rock can cherry pick from 50 years of songs. Modern Rock gonna have some duds with playing whatever the newest stuff is.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:02 am to Baloo
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It's not cooler. Classic rock is such a give up.
Now, let's be clear, there are plenty of older bands who are great. I love the Stones and have a lot of their old records. Big fan. I'm not saying older rock music, I'm saying identifying as a "classic rock" fan is a complete give up. It's saying that you just take received wisdom and accept it. It's like saying you'll just wait for other people to tell you what is good.
I like rock n roll. Old, new, whatever. Doesn't matter. There is no genre of classic rock. That's just repackaged oldies. There's plenty of great bands throughout history. Go find them. It will be a lot of fun.
Well said
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:11 am to TigerFanInSouthland
classic rock was/is better. however, classic rock RADIO sucks arse. gives the genre as a whole a bad name. god, some of those songs are in heavier rotation than they were in their heyday....just make it stop. AOR radio was SO much better...
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:39 am to Baloo
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It's saying that you just take received wisdom and accept it.
Unless you're old like me and filtered that stuff in real-time.
When I started listening to the radio, what you kids call "Classic Rock" - we called AOR.
I listened to Van Halen, Boston, Heart, Queen, etc., while they were making that stuff. The fact that it rose to the top and remains a viable form of music today isn't necessarily cloud computing, as much as the artists back then had to rely on this thing called "talent".
There are young groups with talent, I'm sure, particularly local acts who develop their skills by playing tons of stuff live. However, the market has changed so much - the music industry has always subsisted on the backs of the artists -just like Hollywood - they want a "brand", an "image" or a "style" to sell and they really don't care about (nor would they recognize) legitimate musical talent - that's how you get the Justin Biebers, Britney Spears, Lady Gagas of the past 15 to 20 years - far more the Madonna model, and not so much the great AOR artists of the 70s or even hair metal of the 80s (which was sort of a disconnect - many of them were talented, but, due to MTV, they had to pursue a particular style to differentiante them from other heavy music).
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 7:40 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:42 am to Ace Midnight
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Classic Rock
quote:I hated all those bands then, and still do now
Van Halen, Boston, Heart, Queen
/end hijack
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:11 am to Kafka
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I hated all those bands then, and still do now
What were you listening to in 1980? Olivia Newton John? The Clash? U2?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:39 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Oh I listened to all that stuff, it was played on the local AOR station (I was young and too poor to afford to buy records)
What were you listening to in 1980?
Mostly I preferred the older acts from the '60s. I hated redneck rock and metal.
Contemporary acts I liked that got airplay: Elvis Costello, The Cars, Springsteen (although even then there seemed something bloated about his sound), Warren Zevon, maybe a few others.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:46 am to Kafka
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Elvis Costello
Didn't dislike EC, but nothing ever grabbed me.
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The Cars
I was always a Cars fan, but ended up preferring the Benjamin Orr songs.
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Springsteen
Meh - a song here and there - I always thought Bob Seger did that kind of thing a lot better.
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Warren Zevon
I probably only heard Werewolves until I was 15 - - I like a lot of the WZ as I get older - Lawyers, Guns and Money is one of my personal theme songs.
Honestly, I think that whole group you named is lumped under the category of "Classic Rock" now -
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 8:48 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:56 am to Ace Midnight
Remember, I don't mean acts from that period I like now -- I'm talking about acts I listened to at the time.
I like some Seger stuff from the '60s but he got pretty bland in the '70s, aside from "Get Out Of Denver"
Elvis Costello is probably my favorite songwriter of the last 40 years. His album Imperial Bedroom is in my personal top 5.
I like some Seger stuff from the '60s but he got pretty bland in the '70s, aside from "Get Out Of Denver"
Elvis Costello is probably my favorite songwriter of the last 40 years. His album Imperial Bedroom is in my personal top 5.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:01 am to Kafka
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Remember, I don't mean acts from that period I like now -- I'm talking about acts I listened to at the time.
I understand.
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Elvis Costello is probably my favorite songwriter of the last 40 years.
Kind of the proto-punk - he's equal parts folk-influenced 60s rock, punk/new wave and college radio.
I get that. He's just not my cup of tea.
ETA: However, Pete Thomas - one of the most underrated drummers of all time.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 9:04 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:05 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Imperial Bedroom is a different sound -- a mixture of Pet Sounds, Something Else Kinks, Forever Changes Love and even some Sinatra
Kind of the proto-punk - he's equal parts folk-influenced 60s rock, punk/new wave and college radio
"Town Cryer", the last track on the album, is a song I wish Sinatra had recorded
Jazz legend Chet Baker would cover "Almost Blue"
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:24 am to Ace Midnight
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I listened to Van Halen, Boston, Heart, Queen, etc., while they were making that stuff. The fact that it rose to the top and remains a viable form of music today isn't necessarily cloud computing, as much as the artists back then had to rely on this thing called "talent"
What are rock artists today relying on if it isn't "talent"?
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and not so much the great AOR artists of the 70s or even hair metal of the 80s (which was sort of a disconnect - many of them were talented, but, due to MTV, they had to pursue a particular style to differentiante them from other heavy music).
I really don't understand the point you are trying to make. Are you trying to say that pop rock artists and hair metal bands of the past were more talented than pop artists of today? If so, then I agree, but I thought the thread is about classic rock vs modern rock. When I think of the two terms, I think of CCR vs Alabama Shakes / The Sheepdogs and Van Halen vs Queens of the Stone Age / NIN. Not Queen vs Justin Beiber...
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:52 am to SUB
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I thought the thread is about classic rock vs modern rock. When I think of the two terms, I think of CCR vs Alabama Shakes / The Sheepdogs and Van Halen vs Queens of the Stone Age / NIN. Not Queen vs Justin Beiber...
Probably a fair redirect. Just like me, though, you're showing your age when you call QSA/NIN (and I'll throw in RHCP) as "new" or "modern".
Homme is in his 40s, Trent will be 50 next year and all the peppers (well, not the scab) are in their 50s.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 9:53 am
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