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Lottery scholarships and college baseball programs
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:58 pm
I know most don't follow college baseball here, but I'm hoping to get a decent discussion.
Since NCAA baseball only gets 11.7 scholarships compared to 85 for football, can the lottery scholarships or similar state scholarships (TOPS, HOPE, etc.) be beneficial for the baseball program? That way a coach can save the 11.7 scholarships for players from out of state?
The states that I know of that have a scholarship program in the SEC are Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina. (I may have missed a few)
It would seem this is a HUGE advantage that LSU, UF, UGA, Arkansas, USCe, or Tennessee could have over an Ole Miss, Miss. State, Vanderbilt, or Alabama/Auburn, or Tulane.
I know lots of baseball players' parents have money and it's of no issue, but that isn't always the case.
Now, I know LSU's history probably helps them more than TOPS could ever hope to. Same with USCe. Plus both of those schools get players from in-state most of the time, so tuition isn't a big issue.
However, what about Ole Miss? It seems their pool of talent would have to be extremely limited compared to LSU or USC's?
Seems that Tennessee could definitely take a lot of in-state talent and start to offer those scholarships to GA players.
UGA has got to be underachieving big time right now, as they suck. You would think they would get a shitpile of the GA talent and supplement by offering available schollies to FL, SC, and talent form all over the country.
GT seems to do this, but then again, they recruit a different pool of players than UGA for some reason. They do have a great reputation for pulling out of state players like Nomar and Teixeira to the program.
Thoughts?
Since NCAA baseball only gets 11.7 scholarships compared to 85 for football, can the lottery scholarships or similar state scholarships (TOPS, HOPE, etc.) be beneficial for the baseball program? That way a coach can save the 11.7 scholarships for players from out of state?
The states that I know of that have a scholarship program in the SEC are Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina. (I may have missed a few)
It would seem this is a HUGE advantage that LSU, UF, UGA, Arkansas, USCe, or Tennessee could have over an Ole Miss, Miss. State, Vanderbilt, or Alabama/Auburn, or Tulane.
I know lots of baseball players' parents have money and it's of no issue, but that isn't always the case.
Now, I know LSU's history probably helps them more than TOPS could ever hope to. Same with USCe. Plus both of those schools get players from in-state most of the time, so tuition isn't a big issue.
However, what about Ole Miss? It seems their pool of talent would have to be extremely limited compared to LSU or USC's?
Seems that Tennessee could definitely take a lot of in-state talent and start to offer those scholarships to GA players.
UGA has got to be underachieving big time right now, as they suck. You would think they would get a shitpile of the GA talent and supplement by offering available schollies to FL, SC, and talent form all over the country.
GT seems to do this, but then again, they recruit a different pool of players than UGA for some reason. They do have a great reputation for pulling out of state players like Nomar and Teixeira to the program.
Thoughts?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:00 pm to Moustache
Yes. Rather large advantage
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:01 pm to Moustache
Yes, TOPS is vital to college baseball programs in LA. You can split players between TOPS and athletic scholarship, and better utilize the allotted scholarships
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:13 pm to Moustache
Louisiana does not have lottery funded scholarships.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:26 pm to Moustache
I am always surprised that the almost exclusively partial scholarships for baseball do not cause more athletes to stay in state - that is, generally, due to out of state tuition figures.
Also, are student athletes provided with medical, dental and vision coverage? If so, how generous (lasik, orthodontics etc)?
Also, are student athletes provided with medical, dental and vision coverage? If so, how generous (lasik, orthodontics etc)?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:40 pm to Moustache
I don't follow college baseball too closely, but there is apparently some loophole that gives Vandy a big leg up over Tennessee in-state.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:41 pm to Moustache
Welcome to the board, Coach Polk.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:43 pm to Moustache
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It would seem this is a HUGE advantage that LSU, UF, UGA, Arkansas, USCe, or Tennessee could have over an Ole Miss, Miss. State, Vanderbilt, or Alabama/Auburn, or Tulane.
Tulane gets their players on the legislative scholarships.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:31 pm to Moustache
surprised a bevy of lawsuits havent changed this...
imagine the same restriction on basketball.....in ration to team members....
imagine the same restriction on basketball.....in ration to team members....
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:32 pm to Moustache
It's always been used as an excuse for AL state schools, and why we can't field consistent teams, given the state has a huge baseball fanbase. IDK if it's true. UGA has the HOPE, but they are turrible at baseball.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:31 pm to Moustache
Louisiana also has legislative scholarships
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