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re: BCS in review vs 4 team playoff? Let's see what the potential playoff would be
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:50 am to trackfan
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:50 am to trackfan
So... what happens if, for instance, South Carolina blows the doors off of everyone they play in the east. Average margin of victory... 40 points. Don't lose a game.
Ole Miss does the same in the west (Ok, I thought Alabama, but Ole Miss somehow showed up on the screen... a guy can dream, can't he?). Both undefeated, both light years ahead of anyone else in the country. Then, in the SEC championship game, one of them wins 2-0 or 3-2 or some ridiculously low score. Does the loser, who gave up a field goal or a fluke safety or something, shafted and not have a chance at all to make the playoff?
Ole Miss does the same in the west (Ok, I thought Alabama, but Ole Miss somehow showed up on the screen... a guy can dream, can't he?). Both undefeated, both light years ahead of anyone else in the country. Then, in the SEC championship game, one of them wins 2-0 or 3-2 or some ridiculously low score. Does the loser, who gave up a field goal or a fluke safety or something, shafted and not have a chance at all to make the playoff?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:02 am to SSpaniel
What I'm saying is that teams that lose a game don't have the same argument as undefeated teams, regardless of the system used. In your example, you would have to look at the results of the other 100+ teams before you decide who deserves what. What if you had PAC 12, Big 12 and Big 10 champions who had all steamrolled everyone on their schedule? Why should the SEC loser get a bid over them?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:12 am to SSpaniel
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Ole Miss does the same in the west (Ok, I thought Alabama, but Ole Miss somehow showed up on the screen... a guy can dream, can't he?). Both undefeated, both light years ahead of anyone else in the country. Then, in the SEC championship game, one of them wins 2-0 or 3-2 or some ridiculously low score. Does the loser, who gave up a field goal or a fluke safety or something, shafted and not have a chance at all to make the playoff?
In a 4 team playoff. Yes. The team that loses has no chance of making the playoff
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Because that's how sports works sometimes. The regular season determines the best teams. The playoffs determine the champion.
Normally I would agree if we were talking NFL (only 32 teams and 12 teams make playoffs) or any other college sport where we have over 120+ teams but have 30+ teams in the playoffs.
But with a 4 team playoff and 120+ teams fighting to get those 4 spots, that way of thinking just isn't true. If a team has faced someone already and beat them and won their conference the other team does not deserve a shot at getting one of the 4 spots in the 4 team playoff.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 11:16 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:13 am to SSpaniel
Winning 2/3 I think would be more meaningful than a team only winning game 2.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:33 pm to SSpaniel
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So... what happens if, for instance, South Carolina blows the doors off of everyone they play in the east. Average margin of victory... 40 points. Don't lose a game.
Ole Miss does the same in the west (Ok, I thought Alabama, but Ole Miss somehow showed up on the screen... a guy can dream, can't he?). Both undefeated, both light years ahead of anyone else in the country. Then, in the SEC championship game, one of them wins 2-0 or 3-2 or some ridiculously low score. Does the loser, who gave up a field goal or a fluke safety or something, shafted and not have a chance at all to make the playoff?
And here you have why the playoff will be worse than the BCS.
Take 2011 for example. Say #1 LSU loses to #8 UGA. Who goes to the playoff? LSU, who went undefeated and lost to a top ten team in a bonus game, or Bama who lost to LSU at home and got to site at home while LSU played that top ten team? And what's UGA's reward for beating the #1 team in the country? Watching Bama and LSU play for a championship?
Or what about last year, where you had Bama, UGA, and aTm all ranked in the top 5. Do you penalize UGA for losing to the #1 team in the country in a bonus game? Will the committee take 3 teams from the SEC?
So many things will go wrong with this.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:59 pm to SSpaniel
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Does the loser, who gave up a field goal or a fluke safety or something, shafted and not have a chance at all to make the playoff?
In that scenario the loser of the game was in the playoff. The championship game was essentially a "play in" game. If you don't prove on the field that you're the best in your conference, how can you prove that you're the best in the country? It doesn't make sense.
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