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Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:54 pm to tigerpimpbot
This one of those hires that could be a complete home run or an utter failure. The question is are Miles and Cameron willing to take that chance?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:54 pm to oreeg
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No way man. It HAS to be somebody I know who went to LSU and was good. Nothing less. I will not accept someone I'm not familiar with.
when you get guys of that caliber from anywhere that want to be part of your program in a supporting role it's a great thing. The excitement regarding KM has much more to do with quality of the potential asset he will become as opposed to previous involvement in the program.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:56 pm to lsu2006
Kevin Mawae would be an excellent O-Line coach at LSU. I cannot think of anything that would help the team more.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:56 pm to AdamDeMamp
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No doubt. But its far from the slam dunk everyone thinks it is.
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But there would be a ton of reward potentially as well.
No doubt. But its far from the slam dunk everyone thinks it is.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:57 pm to lsu2006
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Of course. But you can't just AUTOMATICALLY assume that he will be a great coach.
His credentials line up though. I think that is all anyone is saying.
He's a smart smart guy with skins on the wall. Im not saying we'll hire him, but if he wants to coach, someone eventually will, and they'll have a great coach to teach the intricacies of offensive line.
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Maybe there's a guy who has a proven track record of success in College and/or the NFL that would be interested.
maybe
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:58 pm to Alt26
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I doubt Michael Jordan would be a good coach even though many feel that he is the greatest baskeball player to ever live.
This analogy doesn't necessarily fit, because an o-line can't be successful because of one individual. That kind of success relies on the unit working together to protect the QB on passing plays and open holes on running plays. Jordan created his own opportunities at will which would be much more difficult to teach. Whereas, how to deal with a bull-rush or stunts or making the right call for a blitzing safety or corner can be taught by a player with experience. They can also point out where a particular philosophy or scheme does and does not apply in certain real-world situations.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:58 pm to jonboy
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No doubt. But its far from the slam dunk everyone thinks it is.
So who is the slam dunk oline coach hire everyone wants?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:58 pm to purple18
I have read the majority of the posts and am floored by the stupidity.
There are certainly examples of people that excelled at a particular profession, but could not translate/communicate their skills in such a fashion as to teach others how to do it. This is not just sports, but other professions as well (e.g., not every great lawyer can be a great law school teacher [or vice versa]).
With that said, the automatic groaning at Mawae interviewing or being considered is moronic. He's not been "just" a player. He does have some (albeit limited) coaching experience and the playing credentials that could be divided among three guys and each would still have a storied football career.
The guy is smart, is a great guy, knows his shite, and loves LSU. I have little doubt he can do the job (both on the field, and on the recruiting trail).
There are certainly examples of people that excelled at a particular profession, but could not translate/communicate their skills in such a fashion as to teach others how to do it. This is not just sports, but other professions as well (e.g., not every great lawyer can be a great law school teacher [or vice versa]).
With that said, the automatic groaning at Mawae interviewing or being considered is moronic. He's not been "just" a player. He does have some (albeit limited) coaching experience and the playing credentials that could be divided among three guys and each would still have a storied football career.
The guy is smart, is a great guy, knows his shite, and loves LSU. I have little doubt he can do the job (both on the field, and on the recruiting trail).
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:59 pm to jonboy
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No doubt. But its far from the slam dunk everyone thinks it is.
everyone?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:59 pm to Lester Earl
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skins on the wall
As a coach?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:59 pm to Tigerdew
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Are people really trying to say that an 8-time NFL pro-bowler won't know how to teach kids proper technique?
I know you think you're cute but there is a difference in playing effectively and teaching effectively. Teaching is a specific skill. The reason that magic johnson, and countless other sports stars, failed as a coach is due to the fact that he couldn't teach the game effectively. Still feel like laughing? Oh, and no one said he couldn't teach...just saying that we dont know if he can. Im leaving that for the coaches
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:59 pm to Alt26
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Michael Jordan would be a good coach even though many feel that he is the greatest baskeball player to ever live.
and Larry Bird has won NBA coach of the year, as well as executive of the year
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:00 pm to jonboy
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Coaching is less about knowledge and more about how well one can teach that knowledge. Any way you cut it, there's a lot of risk if Mawae is the hire.
True - but you can't teach what you don't know. I have no problem taking a chance on a guy that played LT, LG and C in the SEC and RG and C in the NFL and made 8 Pro Bowls. Or a guy with a master's degree and 2 teenagers of his own being able to communicate with and mentor college football players. Call me crazy.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:00 pm to oreeg
Dude. Stop.
Was Terrell Owens a bad arse WR? Yes. Would I want him anywhere near coaching my favorite team's players? Hell No and it has everything to do with him off the field.
A great player does not make a great coach automatically. I definitely agree.
But, Kevin Mawae was more than just a great player at the NFL level. Look at the rest of his resume. Being the President of the NFLPA means he is highly intelligent and well respected. If you've heard him speak, you would agree with this.
The fact that he did play at LSU, was an 8 time pro bowler, etc etc etc makes his potential that much higher on the recruiting trails in Louisiana especially and elsewhere; which is also very important as a college coach.
Mawae was a member of the Tiger Vision or whatever the LSU PPV broadcasts are called this year. During the game, he commented on the O Line play and just by his comments, you could see that he could immediately point out the positives and negatives of the O Line technique, etc. I was extremely impressed by listening to him.
I think people are saying that Kevin Mawae's body of work plus personality, etc. gives him the potential to be a great O Line coach.
Was Terrell Owens a bad arse WR? Yes. Would I want him anywhere near coaching my favorite team's players? Hell No and it has everything to do with him off the field.
A great player does not make a great coach automatically. I definitely agree.
But, Kevin Mawae was more than just a great player at the NFL level. Look at the rest of his resume. Being the President of the NFLPA means he is highly intelligent and well respected. If you've heard him speak, you would agree with this.
The fact that he did play at LSU, was an 8 time pro bowler, etc etc etc makes his potential that much higher on the recruiting trails in Louisiana especially and elsewhere; which is also very important as a college coach.
Mawae was a member of the Tiger Vision or whatever the LSU PPV broadcasts are called this year. During the game, he commented on the O Line play and just by his comments, you could see that he could immediately point out the positives and negatives of the O Line technique, etc. I was extremely impressed by listening to him.
I think people are saying that Kevin Mawae's body of work plus personality, etc. gives him the potential to be a great O Line coach.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:01 pm to bbap
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bbap
Long day. I meant "some".
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:01 pm to ipodking
quote:Great point. I don't think I can name an o-line coach at any school or NFL team off the top of my head.
So who is the slam dunk oline coach hire everyone wants?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:01 pm to AdamDeMamp
jim haslett would make a terrible linebackers coach.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:02 pm to udtiger
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With that said, the automatic groaning at Mawae interviewing or being considered is moronic. He's not been "just" a player. He does have some (albeit limited) coaching experience and the playing credentials that could be divided among three guys and each would still have a storied football career.
I'm not groaning at the prospects of him being hired. I'm more floored at everyone using the "slam dunk" term. It's a risk hiring a coach at a major program with so little coaching experience.
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