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MIT scientist Richard Lindzen with best summary of Fear Science ever
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:27 pm
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If Lindzen is right about this and global warming is nothing to worry about, why do so many climate scientists, many with résumés just as impressive as his, preach imminent doom? He says it mostly comes down to the money—to the incentive structure of academic research funded by government grants. Almost all funding for climate research comes from the government, which, he says, makes scientists essentially vassals of the state. And generating fear, Lindzen contends, is now the best way to ensure that policymakers keep the spigot open.
Lindzen contrasts this with the immediate aftermath of World War II, when American science was at something of a peak. “Science had established its relevance with the A-bomb, with radar, for that matter the proximity fuse,” he notes. Americans and their political leadership were profoundly grateful to the science community; scientists, unlike today, didn’t have to abase themselves by approaching the government hat in hand. Science funding was all but assured.
But with the cuts to basic science funding that occurred around the time of the Vietnam war, taxpayer support for research was no longer a political no-brainer. “It was recognized that gratitude only went so far,” Lindzen says, “and fear was going to be a much greater motivator. And so that’s when people began thinking about ... how to perpetuate fear that would motivate the support of science.”
Great article
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:43 pm to CAD703X
I'll read it in time, C...thanks.
BTW, just heard Hannity talking to Joe Bistardi, who pointed out the POWER OUTAGES...and implied that such MIGHT relate to Obama's war on Electricity.
Will and investigation be warranted? Does the public have a right to know just where the Prog Energy policy might go?
Hell, we gave up on the BCS DirectTV satellite, as the thing kept resetting. Hooked up a generator direct to the receiver to watch the game. I can imagine the cursing that was levied toward the energy suppliers, and that will be...IF the Obama policy was complicit in the shortages/outages.![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconspank.gif)
BTW, just heard Hannity talking to Joe Bistardi, who pointed out the POWER OUTAGES...and implied that such MIGHT relate to Obama's war on Electricity.
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Hell, we gave up on the BCS DirectTV satellite, as the thing kept resetting. Hooked up a generator direct to the receiver to watch the game. I can imagine the cursing that was levied toward the energy suppliers, and that will be...IF the Obama policy was complicit in the shortages/outages.
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:48 pm to CAD703X
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Lindzen
Damn. Been good knowing ya.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:06 pm to CAD703X
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He says it mostly comes down to the money—to the incentive structure of academic research funded by government grants
Quick question as I am ignorant on this subject.
How do grants work when it comes to research? Do the researchers get the money in one lump sum and can do with it as they please? Are they allowed to spend grant money on themselves as if it were their salary? Is there oversight/accountability as to how the money is spent?
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:46 pm to CAD703X
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Almost all funding for climate research comes from the government, which, he says, makes scientists essentially vassals of the state.
Well I guess if he says it, it must be true.
Damn.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 4:55 pm to CAD703X
It is no coincidence that the same people who worry about climate change want massive government control of businesses and the economy.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 7:06 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:09 am to CAD703X
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If Lindzen is right about this and global warming is nothing to worry about, why do so many climate scientists, many with résumés just as impressive as his, preach imminent doom?
Maybe because they don't think he's right about this? DUH.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:24 pm to CAD703X
Interesting article that contains what I believe are a few fundamental truths about global warming and client change.
Quoting from the article:
Given these facts from the cited article, it seems that no one knows the long-term impact of continuing to burn oil, gas and especially coal that pump carbon dioxide and other gasses into the atmosphere. If everyone can agree on these points from the article, there is the starting point for a real discussion.
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“The burning of oil, gas, and especially coal pumps carbon dioxide and other gases into the atmosphere, where they allow the sun’s heat to penetrate to the Earth’s surface but impede its escape, thus causing the lower atmosphere and the Earth’s surface to warm. Essentially everybody, Lindzen included, agrees.”
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“We all agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. All other things kept equal, [there has been] some warming. As a result, there’s hardly anyone serious who says that man has no role.”
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“the computer models that climate scientists rely on to project future temperatures…oversimplify the vast complexity of the Earth’s climate.”
Given these facts from the cited article, it seems that no one knows the long-term impact of continuing to burn oil, gas and especially coal that pump carbon dioxide and other gasses into the atmosphere. If everyone can agree on these points from the article, there is the starting point for a real discussion.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:17 am to CAD703X
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Bad News For The Global Warming/Climate Change Fanatic Worshipers: Almost Zero Temperature Growth In Northern Hemisphere Since 1866
The graph below merges the 2002 Version Of GISS 1866-1882 NH temperatures, the 1975 National Academy of Sciences 1882-1970 NH temperatures, and RSS 1979-2014 NH temperatures. There have been two cooling periods and two warming periods since 1866, with almost no net change in temperature.
Real Science
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