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It's not that some think the coach left the decision up to the team, it's that the LSU fans are trying to perpetrate a lie when in reality to anyone with a keen eye would see what is going on.

So did you just agree that you don't think he completely left the decision to the team? If so, I'm not following the lie that us LSU fans are perpetrating.

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Les is a grown arse man, why the frick does he need to have his team reaffirm anything? Stand by your convection and decision as a coach to make your own choice absolved from a team vote.

I actually agree with this.

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I don't know what Les reason was behind what he did but if you believe what he did is true, then I question his leadership abilities to lead troubled players and punish them justly. If any coach did that, I would have the same regards to that situation.

This is the same guy that kicked his 5* starting QB off the team and a defensive Heisman trophy finalist. I have no concerns with him punishing players justly. Can you really not see where he thought it would build team unity to hold a vote. You ever have any meetings at work where your opinion is asked? How about any team building exercises? Some people have different philosophies about how to empower their people.

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If you have kids think about it like this

Great analogy

The football team is exactly like a father raising 85 sons.

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Posted by tress4pres

Columbus, OH

Member since Dec 2007

3858 posts

Posted on 12/26/13 at 12:45 pm to Silky Johnston

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This is the same guy that kicked his 5* starting QB off the team and a defensive Heisman trophy finalist. I have no concerns with him punishing players justly. Can you really not see where he thought it would build team unity to hold a vote. You ever have any meetings at work where your opinion is asked? How about any team building exercises? Some people have different philosophies about how to empower their people.

Honey Badger is a drug addict that was given several chances but was finally (and rightly) kicked off the team. Even after all of that Miles was still working to get him reinstated for the following season.

And no, I cannot see Miles' side of the Hill story. There are rules in the workplace that everyone must abide by. If you violate them you pay the consequences. End of story.

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Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes

Philadelphia

Member since Jul 2013

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Posted on 12/26/13 at 12:52 pm to Silky Johnston

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So did you just agree that you don't think he completely left the decision to the team? If so, I'm not following the lie that us LSU fans are perpetrating.

I guess it's how you look at my response. Either he did what you mentioned and seeked affirmation for his decision or he let the team vote so he didn't make the decision himself. Either or based on how you look at it.

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This is the same guy that kicked his 5* starting QB off the team and a defensive Heisman trophy finalist. I have no concerns with him punishing players justly. Can you really not see where he thought it would build team unity to hold a vote. You ever have any meetings at work where your opinion is asked? How about any team building exercises? Some people have different philosophies about how to empower their people.

Much respect to him and his choices made in the past. I guess I don't see how this would build team unity because their are other ways to do this in regard to discipline. Maybe punish the kid and then have a team meeting to say this won't be tolerated but nothing to the level of a team vote. Maybe some see that as effective but I don't.

I've had team building exercises at work but not over discipline issues. All things like that are between me and my superior(s).