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re: Tom Jackson - Romo is a Top 8 QB

Posted on 12/24/13 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 12:55 pm to
Can't really think of 7 that much better than him.

You have your indisputable top 4:

Manning/Brady/Brees/Rodgers (the top spot changes from year to year)

Romo is clearly ahead of the next group, which includes guys like Ryan/Newton/Big Ben. Then you have young guys still proving: Luck/Wilson/Griffin/Foles
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 1:20 pm to
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Can't really think of 7 that much better than him. You have your indisputable top 4: Manning/Brady/Brees/Rodgers (the top spot changes from year to year) Romo is clearly ahead of the next group, which includes guys like Ryan/Newton/Big Ben. Then you have young guys still proving: Luck/Wilson/Griffin/Foles
pretty much this, with the exception of Rivers, who I'd put at 5.

Romo is in the 6-8 range.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 2:07 pm to
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pretty much this, with the exception of Rivers, who I'd put at 5.

Rivers used to be my #5 in 2010 for sure, but his two-year decline made everyone forget how good he was.

I think this would be my current top ten:

Peyton
Rodgers
Brees
Brady (was third before 2013)
Rivers
Romo
Ryan
Wilson
Big Ben
Foles

I do not feel very confident about the back end of the list. I want to put Luck in there, but that looks to still be 2014 at the earliest. Cam is probably the biggest exclusion. Dalton is starting to creep towards the top ten.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:33 pm to
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Peyton
Rodgers
Brees
Brady (was third before 2013)
Rivers
Romo
Ryan
Wilson

Off the top of my head, I think my top 8 would be exactly the same, definitely top 6.

After 8, I don't necessarily disagree, I just haven't looked much into it.

But that list is on point.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:40 pm to
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Peyton Rodgers Brees Brady (was third before 2013)


Do you realize what Brady is working with this year???? Amazing this guy has done SO much with such a variety of WRS over the years...
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:46 pm to
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Do you realize what Brady is working with this year???? Amazing this guy has done SO much with such a variety of WRS over the years...


This is the first smart comment you have made in this thread!
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:56 pm to
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How can Peyton be head of Eli? Eli has two Super Bowl rings, which clearly makes him the better QB.


I know what you're doing and it's a stupid argument. None of us who place a high value on championships are dumb enough to ignore accomplishments on the field.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:00 pm to
Russell Wilson is a better QB than Romo. An earlier poster talked about the "it" factor. Romo may put up stats worthy of someone's Fantasy Football team but he just doesn't have that ingredient you want from your QB when an important (and I mean *really* important) game is on the line. In two seasons of football, I see that "it" factor residing within Wilson.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110818 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:24 pm to
The "it" factor.

Another great litmus test when discussing sports with people.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:05 pm to
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The "it" factor.

Another great litmus test when discussing sports with people.


So in other words, you have nothing intelligent to say so you're just going to sarcastically rebuke my comments?

Fair enough.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:11 pm to
isn't the eyeball test something looked at with great fondness in the state of Alabama? what makes eyeballs from other states less reliable?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:43 pm to
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isn't the eyeball test something looked at with great fondness in the state of Alabama? what makes eyeballs from other states less reliable?


You seriously need to get over 2011, dude. It wasn't the state of Alabama who put UA into the title game with the "eyeball test" argument. Those were national writers and college coaches who did that.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 7:43 pm
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:46 pm to
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So in other words, you have nothing intelligent to say so you're just going to sarcastically rebuke my comments?



In other words you don't know much about football, so you resort to saying somebody has an "it" factor. LOLZ

You people never learn. Keep watching sportscenter and letting the media narratives tell you what to think about sports.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:51 pm to
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shel311


By far, the most intelligent and unbiased poster on this entire site. We would be friends irl. No homo of course
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:52 pm to
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In other words you don't know much about football, so you resort to saying somebody has an "it" factor.


Ah...the old, "I know what I'm talking about and you don't" argument. I saw quite a few of those in debate class. That was usually a sign that the person who used it didn't know shite.

quote:

You people never learn. Keep watching sportscenter and letting the media narratives tell you what to think about sports.


And you keep letting stats be the basis for your argument as that's all Romo has going for him. Trouble is....4,000+ yards in a pass happy league with rules that favor the offense is quickly becoming about as impressive as a 1,000-yard rusher in the college game.

This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 7:53 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:00 pm to
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In other words you don't know much about football


I think he knows WAY more than you..............
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:03 pm to
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Ah...the old, "I know what I'm talking about and you don't" argument. I saw quite a few of those in debate class. That was usually a sign that the person who used it didn't know shite.


Bro you just said somebody had an "it" factor. Lol


Anyway, Romo's spin move back to his left is probably the best escape move by an NFL qb today. Anybody have a gif of the one Sunday?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:04 pm to
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Anyway, Romo's spin move back to his left is probably the best escape move by an NFL qb today






Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:04 pm to
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And you keep letting stats be the basis for your argument as that's all Romo has going for him. Trouble is....4,000+ yards in a pass happy league with rules that favor the offense is quickly becoming about as impressive as a 1,000-yard rusher in the college game.


Um, I have not posted a single stat in this thread, and I am not a super stat guy. I do think stats need to be in the argument however. Just not the be all end all.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:04 pm to
The whole "it" factor thing is pretty stupid, but I can see the argument in its favor.

I can't understand why someone is saying Wilson has the "it" factor. What has he ever won?
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