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Seahawks game will be a win for the Saints regardless
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:36 am
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:36 am
Sorry if already posted, but I didn't see anything similar on the first page.
This upcoming game should be great for the Saints, whether they win or not. For once, "just get the W" doesn't actually apply. Reasons:
This game isn't as important as the Panthers games; if we beat Seattle but lose even 1 of 2 to Carolina, then we're still looking at the 2 seed. I think, based on the tie-breakers, it won't matter whether we win or lose, we need a split to take the division (I THINK we win the division with a split and the same record due to conference records; obviously we win with a better overall record).
While homefield overall is important, it means more for Seattle than it does for the Saints.They have a young team with a 2nd year QB, while we still have the heart of the team that won the Superbowl in 09. So, Seattle should come out pumped and fired up, and play like it's a playoff game. Their fans should be psyched and crazy, and their team and coaches will be playing for the overall homefield (because I think they know they lose in Nola in the playoffs); it will be as wild as it gets. That's great for the Saints. If we win, awesome. If we lose, we still get a complete look at what the NFC championship environment will be like. Whether we need to adjust for noise, etc. The more desperate Seattle is to win Monday, the more we see potential plays they may try in the playoffs. We see what matchups we can abuse, and what we have to fix... and then we get a rematch for the Superbowl.
As I said, the Panthers games will be bigger overall for us, those will be the high-stress games. I expect Payton to come at the Seahawks more with "let's see what you got" approach, and just be relaxed and have fun.
This upcoming game should be great for the Saints, whether they win or not. For once, "just get the W" doesn't actually apply. Reasons:
This game isn't as important as the Panthers games; if we beat Seattle but lose even 1 of 2 to Carolina, then we're still looking at the 2 seed. I think, based on the tie-breakers, it won't matter whether we win or lose, we need a split to take the division (I THINK we win the division with a split and the same record due to conference records; obviously we win with a better overall record).
While homefield overall is important, it means more for Seattle than it does for the Saints.They have a young team with a 2nd year QB, while we still have the heart of the team that won the Superbowl in 09. So, Seattle should come out pumped and fired up, and play like it's a playoff game. Their fans should be psyched and crazy, and their team and coaches will be playing for the overall homefield (because I think they know they lose in Nola in the playoffs); it will be as wild as it gets. That's great for the Saints. If we win, awesome. If we lose, we still get a complete look at what the NFC championship environment will be like. Whether we need to adjust for noise, etc. The more desperate Seattle is to win Monday, the more we see potential plays they may try in the playoffs. We see what matchups we can abuse, and what we have to fix... and then we get a rematch for the Superbowl.
As I said, the Panthers games will be bigger overall for us, those will be the high-stress games. I expect Payton to come at the Seahawks more with "let's see what you got" approach, and just be relaxed and have fun.
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Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:39 am to Scoob
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if we beat Seattle but lose even 1 of 2 to Carolina, then we're still looking at the 2 seed
i don't think so. Seattle won't win out IMO
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:39 am to Scoob
I agree that winning the Panther's games are more important, but this is still a very big game for us.
HOWEVER, I like the fact that we are playing them there. If we have to go up there during the playoffs, we have the experience of this game to build on.
HOWEVER, I like the fact that we are playing them there. If we have to go up there during the playoffs, we have the experience of this game to build on.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:39 am to Scoob
I disagree with nearly everything you said
Panthers are more important, yes. That's about it...
This game is huge. I honestly don't expect to win. But it's still a huge game. Homfield is just as important for the Saints, if not moreso
Panthers are more important, yes. That's about it...
This game is huge. I honestly don't expect to win. But it's still a huge game. Homfield is just as important for the Saints, if not moreso
This post was edited on 11/22/13 at 10:41 am
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:40 am to Scoob
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Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:41 am to Scoob
quote:
While homefield overall is important, it means more for Seattle than it does for the Saints.
Seattle is 5-1 on the road, if saints lose to seattle they'll be 3-3 on the road. Looks to me like the homefield would mean more for the Saints.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:46 am to Scoob
This game to me signifies our overall road hurdle as a team. This team needs to go up there and learn how to win in an atmosphere like that. I won't be devastated with a close loss, but if we turn the ball over and play like we did against San Fran and the Jets, we're not winning that game. We need to get over that hump because if we can't learn how to do it in Seattle, we're not gonna be able to in New York Super Bowl Blizzard.
I'm pretty stoked about this game because it's a chance for us to make a statement. To a lot of people around the league, we're a great team at home but struggles at home. In MNF, we might be able to finally put that to rest.
I'm pretty stoked about this game because it's a chance for us to make a statement. To a lot of people around the league, we're a great team at home but struggles at home. In MNF, we might be able to finally put that to rest.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:46 am to Scoob
Win your Div then try to get the best record.
I don't agree with your thoughts on playing seattle at all. They have the best record and we are playing to win a tie breaker or outright possession of home field. CSP knows how important this is to his club. There is zero% chance that he goes in with a "oh gee lets just see what happens cause I'm more concerned 'bout carolina " attitude
I don't agree with your thoughts on playing seattle at all. They have the best record and we are playing to win a tie breaker or outright possession of home field. CSP knows how important this is to his club. There is zero% chance that he goes in with a "oh gee lets just see what happens cause I'm more concerned 'bout carolina " attitude
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:49 am to Scoob
The Carolina games are more important because you don't get HFA if you don't win the division.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:55 am to Scoob
I actually agree with everything you said. Obviously winning out and all that jazz is better but you have an excellent realistic perspective 
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:56 am to Scoob
Screw everything you said. Win this game. Win both Carolina games. Win against the Rams and Bucs, and go 3-0 in the playoffs.
Failure is not an option. We can do this.
Failure is not an option. We can do this.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:57 am to Scoob
quote:
This upcoming game should be great for the Saints, whether they win or not. For once, "just get the W" doesn't actually apply.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:58 am to Scoob
We drop one more game, probably to Carolina
Finish 13-3 again
Finish 13-3 again
Posted on 11/22/13 at 11:30 am to Scoob
We haven't played well on the road yet this year so I vehemently disagree with your post. Also, we don't play good in outdoor stadiums...so, if we don't get homefield we will play away and likely out doors, so we could be one and done in the playoffs without HFA.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 11:42 am to Scoob
we lose, we play again in the nfc title game and it is hard to beat a team twice. We win and then have to play them AGAIN in the nfc title game good luck
Posted on 11/22/13 at 11:58 am to Scoob
Run the table. Every game from here on out is basically a must win for us if we want to make sure we win the division and get the number 1 seed.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 12:01 pm to Scoob
This is the biggest game of the season so far. Definitely for the NFC.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 12:19 pm to Scoob
You're catching some heat on here from the couch coaches, but I actually agree with you. So long as we end up with a top 2 seed I think that regardless of the outcome we come out of this game in a really good position for a possible NFCCG rematch.
Even if we lose and end up as the 2 seed and have to go there in late January, we were just there 7 weeks ago. Having the experience of playing them already at their place, in cold weather, and in a playoff game atmospere is invaluable.
To be honest I don't see them beating us in the Dome and I also don't see us loosing to them twice so either way I like our chances come January.
For that reason I think that collectively the Panther games are of far greater importance. If we lose the division and fall to the 5th seed we will go into the playoffs in a death spiral with no momentum and a burning question of "what the hell happened?".
All that being said this next game is huge and I can't wait til next Monday. Watching the Saints whip arse on primetime is always fun. I am just pointing out that it is not the end of the world if we lose.
Even if we lose and end up as the 2 seed and have to go there in late January, we were just there 7 weeks ago. Having the experience of playing them already at their place, in cold weather, and in a playoff game atmospere is invaluable.
To be honest I don't see them beating us in the Dome and I also don't see us loosing to them twice so either way I like our chances come January.
For that reason I think that collectively the Panther games are of far greater importance. If we lose the division and fall to the 5th seed we will go into the playoffs in a death spiral with no momentum and a burning question of "what the hell happened?".
All that being said this next game is huge and I can't wait til next Monday. Watching the Saints whip arse on primetime is always fun. I am just pointing out that it is not the end of the world if we lose.
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