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re: Payton's Inexcusable Timeout Management
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:24 pm to TheSexecutioner
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:24 pm to TheSexecutioner
..you uh..check out the press conference? 
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:29 pm to CptRusty
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Assuming we don't line the entire defense up 25 yards down the field, then we have a large advantage in the situation in question.
Then why wouldn't San Fran run it if we have such a large advantage if they pass? The only reason you say they are predictable is because a run isn't as good as a pass.
So shouldn't we not call the timeout so SF would be pressured to run the ball to burn our timeout?
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:31 pm to TheSexecutioner
I'm sorry, but if you want to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another 5 minutes.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:32 pm to TheSexecutioner
Jesus Christ its fricking Tuesday and this shite needs to be anchored and you need to get the frick on' son.
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:34 pm to whodatfan
The only poster I know of that would argue this long without moving an inch is chadboy. Hmmmm.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:34 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Wrong. Knowing somebody will seize a better option that you afford to them does not render an advantage over not giving them that option at all
You have yet to explain how calling that timeout gives them a better option. Not calling the timeout gives them more options. Why can't you understand this? It wasn't the 49ers timeout at stake here, it was the Saints'. If the 2 min warning wasn't a concern, the 49ers options were wide open. Do they go for the first through the air, or do they run the ball and force a timeout? It's anybody's guess. The simple fact that the clock was going to stop regardless, forcing a timeout is no longer an option. The overwhelmingly logical choice is to pass.
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If you are playing chess and you put your king in a shitty position, you know your opponent will come after it. Just because you know your opponent is coming after it doesn't make it an advantage. It just means your king is in a shitty position and both you and your opponent know it.
There's this really obscure term in our language for such a strategy. It's called "bait".
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:37 pm to goatmilker
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The only poster I know of that would argue this long without moving an inch is chadboy. Hmmmm.
Ask a question about ingram.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:38 pm to TheSexecutioner
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So shouldn't we not call the timeout so SF would be pressured to run the ball to burn our timeout?
Because you can't pressure them into a sure-run situation. Best you can do there is probably 50% run / 50% pass, which is the absolute last thing you want as a defense.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:42 pm to Korkstand
I'm out until a more intelligent poster comes in. I've explained it to you sufficiently.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:43 pm to TheSexecutioner
Ya think?
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:44 pm to TheSexecutioner
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until a more intelligent poster comes in.
Code for someone who agrees with you.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:47 pm to TheSexecutioner
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I'm out until a more intelligent poster comes in. I've explained it to you sufficiently.
As a result of your highly intelligent remarks about Payton's use of timeouts, he has provided you the complementary PS3 remote. You may press select whenever you feel the timeouts are necessary.
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:50 pm to TheSexecutioner
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I'm out until a more intelligent poster comes in. I've explained it to you sufficiently.
You have explained exactly dick, and you know it.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:51 pm to goatmilker
I was thinking the same thing. Could it be?
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:53 pm to TheSexecutioner
You keep talking about the mathematics of the decision but you have yet to acknowledge the playcalling strategy. The timeout took away the threat of the run, read option, and play action. The Saints (and most people watching the game) knew that second down was a pass. It worked out brillantly. Saints knew every move SF was making before they made them at that point in the game. I don't understand how you can say he was wrong when the plan worked like clockwork and you will never know if your theoretical strategy would have.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:56 pm to boonies
His strategy works every time in Madden. And he's probably one of the best in online tourneys too.
So there is that.
So there is that.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 3:57 pm to goatmilker
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His strategy works every time in Madden. And he's probably one of the best in online tourneys too.
So there is that.
Championship!
Posted on 11/19/13 at 5:15 pm to TheSexecutioner
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He showed he didn't even know the rules of the game, so I'm not going to just assume he has a good understanding of game theory.
You can clearly hear him tell the ref, "Yep, I want it anyway" in reference to the timeout on the review. He wanted extended time for whatever reason. I'll trust him over your conjecture every time.
To quote another Saints coach, "You THINK you know, but you DON'T know".
Your hubris is laughable.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 6:53 pm to TheSexecutioner
Glad to know you are a stupid fricking idiot within the first 3 lines of your post...learn football before you post about it... Stupid frick.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 8:34 pm to TheSexecutioner
Dude, did SP sleep with your wife or something?
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