re: 'Girls' Will Return January 12th

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well hannah is irredeemable

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Ha. I really liked the episode where she shacked up in the guy's house for a couple days of sex and housewifery.

Jessa is the only one that I find truly tedious. The rest can be annoying, but I enjoy watching them attempt, and often fail, to be "real" people

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so to make her even more crazy, they literally OUT OF NOWHERE made her fricking crazy

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Those last two episodes were uncomfortable to say the least.

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there are good people who are 20 somethings (just like there are black people, even though this show acts like there aren't)

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No doubt. But if we're being honest, most of us were not particularly great people at that age.

The black people thing is nitpicking to me. We can go round and round on all sorts of shows that don't display racial or gender reality.

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BB wasn't hailed for its realism or how it defined a generation. it was a crime thriller that required a suspension of disbelief. girls is supposed to be a show that requires no SoD, at least if you belief the hype

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I think the realism quote is misconstrued a bit. I would say it gives a semi realistic view (it's still a tv show, not a documentary, of course) of life for college educated, privileged, urban 20 somethings from the perspective of women; that is something we have never had on tv. It is much more realistic in it's depictions and emotions of sex and relationships than we saw in SATC.

Is it a perfect show? Not at all. Did the internet internet when hyping the show? Of course. It's not a generation defining show, but it is an interesting show that should be judged on its merits, not what bloggers decided to say in the run up to the airing of the show. shite, people thought Smash would be a huge hit after screening the pilot.

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show me where BB was hailed for its realism

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For me, that doesn't have anything to do with characters being redeemable or not. No matter how fantastic or realistic their world is intended to be, their reactions to their environments are truth. Those actions, reactions, and motives can be judged to determine how we feel about them.