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rjokerlsu
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Most seasons, you could safely say LSU has more talent at corner than the average NFL team, but so far this season, that doesn't appear to be true.

Most of the talent there is very young and in time, should be up to the usual LSU caliber at corner.






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MrPackSix
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Landry and Beckham will go


FIFY

Hill is gone, Collins may come back, Turner as well

And every defensive player should be BANNED from leaving early. Theyve been downright depressing to watch so far






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wilceaux
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I think the take home message of this thread should be that next year is going to be a down year.





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LsuTool
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I think the take home message of this thread should be that next year is going to be a down year.


if Cam is here, we'll be fine.

the D will improve and the offense will be ok with AJ10, magee, brazil, the freshman WRs, dural, leslie, diarse and a solid OL.

Bama will have a new qb, aTm will have a terrible D plus JFF, matthews, and Evans will be gone.



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wilceaux
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the D will improve and the offense will be ok with AJ10, magee, brazil, the freshman WRs, dural, leslie, diarse and a solid OL


I don't mean to be negative, but you have nothing to base any of this on, except Magee.






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CPass05
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Hill (100% gone)
Hilliard (30%)
If Hill goes, Hilliard stays. If Hill stays...I still don't see Hilliard going. He doesn't want to end up like the many LSU RBs that got lost come draft day 'a la' Michael Ford, Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, etc....

Just my opinion






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YouAre8Up
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lsufan251875
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Here we go again. Why don't we encourage our guys to stay for four years? Why do our fans encourage our guys to leave? As I have stated before, we need more Whitworths and Dorseys. If our defensive guys were still here we would win the national championship without a doubt. In my mind, it is about LSU, not the business of the NFL.


With the new rookie cap, there is less incentive than ever to stay 4 years if you will get drafted after 3. Before, you wanted that first round check. Now, you are always shooting for the post-rookie contract. That means the younger you start play in the NFL, the more years you get paid.






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CPass05
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this years draft seems to be pretty deep with WRs

Sammy Watkins
allen robinson
mike evans
maruquise lee
jordan matthews

are landry and beckham more attractive to the NFL than these guys?
They are both definately in the top 5 of WR taken. That's just how it is. Depending on what the teams want....






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TomballTiger
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you are out of your effing mind






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nicholastiger
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As far as RB's go, if your ready to start a NFL career you might as well go irregardless of draft stock. RB's are going later and even free agents are making rosters.





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BIG CAT
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I spoke to family member he is gone, feels his stock will not get any better with LF coming in.





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SteveLSU35
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Hilliard has really picked it up the past few games. If he continues to run the ball hard he better go a head and go. Twins...................... damn





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Shotime
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If Hill goes, Hilliard stays. If Hill stays...I still don't see Hilliard going. He doesn't want to end up like the many LSU RBs that got lost come draft day 'a la' Michael Ford, Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, etc....



Both on NFL rosters Hilliard will likely make one as well






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TigerfFaithful
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No one on the defense should declare, but, after the mass exodus last year, I would not be surprised if Freak, Ego and Rasco all left. If any of our players get an NFL grade regardless of projected round, they are more than likely gone.





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TheDrunkenTigah
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Offense:
Hill (100% gone)
Hilliard (100%)
Landry (100%)
Beckham (100%)
Collins (100%)
Turner (75%)

Defense:
Freak (100%)
Ego (100%)
Allen (75%)
Rasco (75%)
J. Collins (75% or transfer)



Rookie. Salary. Cap.






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Mike Linebacker
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The only early entrants should be Hill, Beckham and Landry. They have proven themselves as elite talent and they cannot help their draft status by coming back.

Every single other player mentioned in this thread is more likely to end up as a late round or UDFA than they are to being a day two pick. The hardest one is La'El Collins. He has the size, strength and athleticism to be a top pick, but (1) he hasn't been playing the position for long at the college level and (2) he has been good, not great. The problem is, he has been told since he was 16 that he was a surefire first rounder, some scout or agent will overrate him and convince him to come out and then he'll be a fourth round pick.

Same thing with Freak and Ego. These guys are third rounders (Freak) and fourth rounders (Ego) who will be told they could go in the late first, early second. Remember Sam Montgomery? Middle to late first round grade at this time last year. Instead, he goes in round 3 and a lot of people say the Texans reached. Sam will be out of the league in two years.

Turner will be drafted in round 6 or 7 (and could be an UDFA). Allen, Rasco and Collins - same thing. Hilliard will not be drafted. If you end up as a late rounder or an UDFA, you have so much to prove, it rarely works. That's why guys like Brady and Colston are such fascinating stories, because usually those guys are hoping to make the practice squad and spend a year or two before realizing the dream is over. Why in the world do some people VOLUNTEER for this (e.g., Trev Faulk, Chris Faulk, Tharold Simon)?

I get that the money even for a late round pick is really good. But someone who cares about these guys needs to tell them that NFL teams want return on investment. They don't sign free agents and high round draft picks and then cut them loose. Sure, they'll take a cheap diamond in the rough who pans out. But they give those flyers far less opportunity because they aren't invested in them.

Finally, being a college kid (and a star football player at a school like LSU) is something worth enjoying. Aside from trust fund babies, no one has money at 21 or 22. But the memories of that senior year in college stay forever, long after the playing days are over. Like I said at the beginning, I totally get it for Hill, Landry and Beckham. But the rest should stay in school, get better and enjoy life.






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TigerfFaithful
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I agree that they can improve their draft stock by staying, but more than likely they will declare. Bottom line is these guys are looking to get paid for playing. Getting a college degree or staying in school for an extra year is secondary. Being a first day pick means little to nothing to these guys. When it comes to the NFL, it is all about the second contract. If they believe their skills will translate to the professional game, and that is exactly what agents will tell them, then they are going to bolt for the possible future payday. Also, keep in mind, the 100th pick in last year's draft still almost received something like a $500,000 signing bonus. Then, there is always the possibility of injury (i.e., Lattimore) or losing draft status (i.e., Barkley). For these reasons, a guy three years removed from high school will probably take the money while he can. Unfortunately for LSU fans, the NFL draft has bitten us hard recently.


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TheDrunkenTigah
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Every single other player mentioned in this thread is more likely to end up as a late round or UDFA than they are to being a day two pick.


I agree, but these days that's all it takes. Many would rather be getting paid period, and more often than not a senior year can only hurt a guy's chances with the injury risk. This is not an absolute truth, but as a rule of thumb teams seem to be placing less emphasis on a guys college tape an more on his perceived potential. IF they get a draftable grade they're more than likely gone nowadays. I agree most would probably have more to remember if they stayed for their senior year, and maybe a team gets caught in the hype of a good 4th year and takes them early. That said, with Sam as a great example, those who aren't going to make in the NFL aren't any better served by a senior season that may expose them or get them hurt.

ETA: Not to say I think Sam will be a bust, just that he wasn't gonna get a higher grade this year, so he left when he should have.



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Manky
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I spoke to family member he is gone, feels his stock will not get any better with LF coming in.








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