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re: Castle Clash: iOS/Droid Tigerdroppins Guild... iOS boss fight Sunday at 9

Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:38 am to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:38 am to
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I could also buy Immortep. But I don't know why I would at this point.

Are you farming HBM G? If not, he could get you there. If you are farming G, I don't think he could get you to H, so he might not be worth it to you. I think GR might possibly be more fun for you. Then you would be able to toss TG, SM, and GR out on the edges of a base and let them destroy the core so you can just drop everyone else in to mop up.

Really though I think those shards are better spent on PD skill right now. I believe 10k shards will get you the full 200k points to 7/9.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65055 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:40 am to
I'm farming G with ease.

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I believe 10k shards will get you the full 200k points to 7/9.


it will get me all the way. I'm doing it.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65055 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:59 am to
I can also upgrade my PD and TG with the amount of HB and books that I have. This would do me a world of good I think.
Posted by polizei11
Houston
Member since May 2009
1135 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:07 am to
PD is there for the proc. I'd upgrade the others first.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65055 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:11 am to
Got it.

I also just rolled 17,000 gems. 2 Succubus and one Champion. frick
Posted by lsuchamps23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
9496 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:15 am to
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17,000 gems. 2 Succubus and one Champion


that sucks, did you buy them or saved them up?

i can save till about 1000 then i have to use them
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65055 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:18 am to
Bought some a long time ago and saved up
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65055 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:22 am to
Ok, PD is now 7/9 proc ability. Woot. And I'm going to upgrade TG I think. Seems like the best move

Also how much money do I need to upgrade at 140?
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:51 am to
You sound like you have a killer squad that does not get used correctly
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65055 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:54 am to
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You sound like you have a killer squad



Uhhhhh no. It's an average squad. Pretty much everybody has the same heroes that I do.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27744 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:16 pm to
Everyone has a PD?

In the most friendly, joking tone: frick you.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:18 pm to
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I'm farming G with ease.
Me too, I never come close to losing a hero, and I can't remember the last time I even lost a tower. But then H just fricks me up, I might win 1 out of 4.
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it will get me all the way. I'm doing it.
Wish I had the shards to do it too.

Btw don't get mad at me if your boss output doesn't double. At an absolute minimum, your DMG to the boss will increase by 3.7% (if you just maintained one PD stack, your guys will do 140% damage vs 135%, 140/135= 1.037). More likely, you hover around the 4 stack mark, so your damage should increase by a minimum of 8.3% (260% vs 240%). If I'm right about how many stacks PD 6/9 can maintain vs. 7/9, and if I'm right about how the game's attack rates go, then I think your damage should really go up by about 35%, minimum.

So that's my final answer, your damage in 3 minutes should go from 24m to 32m, at least. Let's see how far off I am.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 1:03 pm to
So is there a quick guide to this game any of you recommend? Ive just started, TH7, and have nearly all buildings upgraded to lvl 7 as well.
I play a lot of clash of clans, where you are supposed to upgrade everything fully then upgrade the TH, but i have seen recommendations that in this game you should be constantly upgrading your TH.
Also - heroes - how the hell do you get decent heroes besides purchasing gems? Ive never had to spend a dime in CoC.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 1:13 pm to
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i have seen recommendations that in this game you should be constantly upgrading your TH.
Constantly upgrading TH is good to do, but you will need to upgrade your gold vaults too in order to hold enough to upgrade higher level TH. Upgrading TH unlocks more buildings, and at a minimum each level gives you 10 more wall pieces.
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Also - heroes - how the hell do you get decent heroes besides purchasing gems?
It can take a while, but just by logging in every day for a month you will get a Paladin and a Druid. Paladin is meh, but Druid is one of the most crucial heroes in the game. Aside from that, you just have to get lucky rolling purple heroes with the free gems you get, or buy them with shards. Good heroes to buy with shards are Champion, Thunder God, and Succubus to start. Later on you might want to buy Immortep. Farming shards takes a while, so you need to play HBM (Here Be Monsters, the blue portal at the top left) religiously. Base design is critical to doing well at HBM, and there are tons of great designs all over the CC forums for various TH levels.

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Constantly upgrading TH is good to do

ok good to know. 180 flip in strat vs CoC

Druid, Champ, TG and Succ. got it.
how far should i bother upgrading the 3 heroes i currently have?
1 elite and 2 random ordinary? right now they are all lvl 40. just leave them be at 40 and wait until i get legendary options?

havent tried HBM yet. just raids and dungeons and whatever the hell the 3 bridges mini game is.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 1:47 pm to
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ok good to know. 180 flip in strat vs CoC
You can play the non-upgrade strategy if you want, and focus on your core heroes. This keeps your might low relative to your raiding team, and you get matched up in raids based on your might so it's easier to raid. But yeah, most people now favor upgrading buildings and raising might because the daily rewards are better.
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Druid, Champ, TG and Succ. got it.
That's not a hard and fast rule, as there are many better heroes (though Druid is almost always a necessity for his healing). Champ is essential for boss fights, and TG is a beast for raiding, HBM, and arena. Succubus is a beast in arena mainly.
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how far should i bother upgrading the 3 heroes i currently have?
1 elite and 2 random ordinary? right now they are all lvl 40. just leave them be at 40 and wait until i get legendary options?
That depends on how patient you are in waiting to collect your legendary heroes. You might need to level them up a little bit more in order to beat a level or two of HBM, but don't go crazy because Honor Badges can be hard to come by. Most generally don't go past 60 with ordinary, and 80 with elite.
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havent tried HBM yet.
You should get on that ASAP. It is by far the best source of shards and EXP. You get a new chance every 3 hours, but it only stores 6 chances max. You should use all your chances twice a day to avoid filling your 6 chances and missing out on some.
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whatever the hell the 3 bridges mini game is.
That's the arena. You should do that often too. You get 40 HB for a win, and 6 HB for a loss, plus you get a certain amount of HB hourly depending on your rank. Don't worry about maintaining a high rank, though, because the hourly payout doesn't really increase much unless you are very, very highly ranked.
Posted by Cypdog
Member since Jan 2014
832 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:36 pm to
Don't sweat the legendary heroes yet. You can do well with out them for awhile. In 30 days you will have both the Paladin and the Druid. Try and get as many of the daily bonus gems as possible and join tapjoy for easy free gems. I downloaded lots of free apps and got lots of gems that way. It is totally random when rolling for heroes. Some are very lucky, some not so much.

Save your shards and buy a thunder god and champion. You will likely roll at least one other hero eventually with the free gems.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:57 pm to
I started working on my simulator today, focusing mainly on damage output vs. boss. Here is what I have so far:

Calculates attack, HP, and move speed given starting values and current hero level and star.

Fights for a given amount of time, tracks energy levels and procs when necessary.

Tracks attack buffs, applies them to damage dealt, stacks them appropriately, and drops them when they wear off.



To do, hopefully later tonight:

Finish entering hero start values and skill info.

Implement attack speed buffs.

Enter talents info and implement talent effects.



After that, I should be able to model any team's damage rate against the boss, and thus predict the change in damage dealt based on any number of changes to your team. Hero substitutions, level or skill increases, talent change, etc.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27744 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:26 pm to
Does it account for how you drop your troops?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28731 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:57 pm to
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Does it account for how you drop your troops?

You mean to maintain stun lock? As of now, I'm going simple and assuming the boss isn't fighting back and killing guys. Optimal drop timing to line up stuns will be added later.

Edit: it's set up to be easy to modify drop order and timing, though. The part that will take some time is calculating non-stun windows, accounting for the ever-changing attack and proc rates due to PD, Cupid, and the randomness of heavy blow talents.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 7:01 pm
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