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5 Subtle Clues Your Favorite Band Secretly Sucks

Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:05 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:05 pm
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#3. They Sell out Huge Venues but Don't Sell Records

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If you were basing your judgment on nothing but concert attendance, it wouldn't be crazy to assume that Phish is one of the best bands in the world. Of course, anyone with four hours or more of space between them and their last magic mushroom trip knows that's not the case. Phish is a terrible band.

Imagine I'm speaking as this guy for the first part of the next sentence.

"Well, it's not that they're a bad band, per se, it's just that what they do onstage doesn't really translate to the studio," some dirty hippie probably said just now. They're wrong, though, because if Phish (or the Grateful Dead before them) was a good band, they would find a way to make their shite work everywhere.

It's not impossible. Plenty of bands make great albums and also put on consistently great shows. Bruce Springsteen has been doing that for decades. If the only way you can pull a strong performance out of a band is to put them in front of thousands of adoring fans, it's not because they're awesome, it's because they're shitty songwriters who have to play minor variations of the same idea for minutes on end before it becomes even remotely listenable. Their only role in the music universe is to give the last few thousand people in the world who still do acid a relatively safe place to go when the planetarium is closed.

Whether fans want to admit it or not, bands like Phish didn't build their vast live following by making good music. They did it by consistently throwing great drug parties.

There are some exceptions in this particular realm right now. Pearl Jam has built the same kind of live following, but they did it on the strength of years and years worth of memorable songs and albums. Even the Dave Matthews Band manages to pair incessant noodling onstage with relatively tight studio work on occasion.

So let me ask you this: Is it fair to give someone like the Grateful Dead a pass as a "great" band even though all of their good albums are live albums and their studio stuff is mostly forgettable? Trick question, there are no good Grateful Dead albums. The live ones are the best, though, because, again, it's "hard to recreate what they do onstage within the confines of a studio, man."

Listen, I'm not saying people who make that claim about a band like Phish or Grateful Dead are incorrect. I'm just saying it means those bands are less talented than a lot of other bands.
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Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:19 pm to
fricking popcorn

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Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:24 pm to
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Of course, anyone with four hours or more of space between them and their last magic mushroom trip knows that's not the case. Phish is a terrible band.


This part is true.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:25 pm to
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Bruce Springsteen has been doing that for decades. If the only way you ca




Most overrated musician ever
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:26 pm to
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It's not impossible. Plenty of bands make great albums and also put on consistently great shows. Bruce Springsteen has been doing that for decades. If the only way you can pull a strong performance out of a band is to put them in front of thousands of adoring fans, it's not because they're awesome, it's because they're shitty songwriters who have to play minor variations of the same idea for minutes on end before it becomes even remotely listenable. Their only role in the music universe is to give the last few thousand people in the world who still do acid a relatively safe place to go when the planetarium is closed.



Guy is pretty funny.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:30 pm to
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And the writer is full of shite. I'm not even a phan. Different types of art have different types of mediums. Improvisational music will always be better live. It's my understanding that the jam band thing is all about improvisation.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:30 pm to
Live music>> Studio for any band worth a shite.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:47 pm to
Anytime someone puts Dave Matthews anywhere close to being as good as the dead (much less better) the AIDS virus runs rampant through an orphanage.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 5:55 pm to
A cliche ridden hack article written by someone that has no real background actually listening to any of Phish's stuff

The "yea it's good cause you're on drugs" line was maybe funny in like '71 making fun of Dead concerts. It's such cliche it's embarrassing and a crutch for people that don't know what they're talking about

Yea the studio stuff is sub-par, but if that's your big angle with why Phish sucks, then you don't really get it. These articles pop up about once a month. There's not much unique thought going on here
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 7:23 pm to
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Bruce Springsteen has been doing that for decades.


Bruuuuuuuce!

Only performer around that should be allowed to put on a 3 hour show!
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:37 pm to
This is exactly what I expected when I started this thread.
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Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:56 am to
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Their only role in the music universe is to give the last few thousand people in the world who still do acid a relatively safe place to go when the planetarium is closed.


This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 10:57 am
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