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What's so special with Alabama? Like really?

Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:16 am
Posted by 504Saint
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2004
741 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:16 am
Yes, they are a successful program. But we are too. What do Louisiana kids really see in Alabama that's not at LSU? Alabama is a worse state with lil to none excitement. Tuscaloosa is much smaller than Baton Rouge. New Orleans is a much more exciting city than fkn Birmingham. I could see losing Louisiana kids to Texas, but Alabama??? It's boring as fk out there. I just don't see the excitement for Alabama for a Louisiana kid. They are winning now, but once Saban leaves or retires, they will go back to average/good. I guess we just have to beat those clowns regularly to win our state back.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 1:18 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98301 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:21 am to
Bandwagon effect. In the nineties it was FSU. A certain number of kids will want to leave the state, and they'll gravitate to what's perceived as the hot program. We just have to beat them a couple of times and this will take care of itself. We got screwed on the BCS in 2011, and last year we were oh so close. They look vulnerable this year, and they'll be breaking in a new QB next year. Beat them two in a row and all the bandwagon fans will put the Bama gear back in the closet.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57359 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:52 am to
Neither Tuscaloosa or BR are great, don't make it sound like he picked Detroit over Paris.
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 2:21 am to
It's not about where they play, it's about how they recruited.

Alabama gave Landon Collins gf (Rofl having a gf when going to college) a scholarship to volleyball or basketball or something.

They got Cameron Sims on board knowing he was the piece needed for Robinson. The only real justice out of all this is that Sims will just be processed and moved down the depth chart because he sucks. Well, until he transfers to ITT Tech or something.

Also, look at the pros of going to Bama.

1. You're never called for holding.
2. Your team gets to pick their own schedule.
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:45 am to
It's a fad, just like Texas, USC, FSU, Michigan, and the Miami were..

Truthfully, ESPN has a lot to do with it.

Yea, they all have tradition (more than LSU) but Bama is the "in" program, right now.

College football is cyclical. Saban is going to retire and there will be another program that goes on a hot recruiting tear.

To look at it in a positive light, LSU has never been that "it" school.. and we've competed with and bested a lot of those mentioned.

LSU is gaining a national recruiting base. Lets see what the next few years bring. We'll always be able to survive on local talent. Those others have to fight for it.

Again, blame ESPN.. You can sit there and say it's BS but as a high school football player/recruit, you're subconsciously thinking/being told that Bama is the place to be. Just like USC was a decade ago. As soon as Saban got hired, Alabama was shoved down the nations throat. All you heard about was Bama.







Posted by 504 SOULJA
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
1152 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:54 am to
They have pretty much have the best facilities in college and kids are going first round to the draft and not to mention they are winning championships and being coached by One of the best coach's in college, in little Nicky. But we have to start beating them year end and year out.
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 3:59 am to
Also, we can't forget that it is a financial/business decision. In Cam Robinson's case, Bama has had A LOT of 1st round picks, from their O-line.

On the contrary, LSU has failed to get our O-linemen drafted high.

Call it a string of bad luck, tho. We have had talent that could've gone really high, they just got hurt, or had poor senior seasons.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66158 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 5:30 am to
absolutely nothing.

saban is known as this great recruiter and coach and bc of it.. he draws in a ton of recruits and they become successful. it's simply the winning and current national perception.. but it can fade VERY fast.. and it will again.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 6:37 am to
Goddamn LSU has more than its share of insecure fans.

Bama has won 3 of 4, Saban is the undisputed best coach of the modern era, and Bama's history is second to none. A player picks Bama over LSU and suddenly this board is overrun with reactionary mouth breathers bitching about taking our state back, cursing kids for leaving, questioning their loyalty to their state, and generally acting like children.

Oh and Miles pulls in top 10 classes on the reg and is widely seen as having the most talented team in the SEC. But the sky is falling, of course.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22350 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 6:46 am to
quote:

Yes, they are a successful program. But we are too.
There's your problem right there. Success by what standard. If it's the old 10-win standard, then yes (there sure are a lot of successful teams out there). If it's number of visits to the mountain top, then no. If it's by measuring a program in gradual decline/improve, then no to that too.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 6:53 am
Posted by Crocc
South Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
101 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 6:54 am to
Don't forget about forest, forest gump!! Admit it u read it in his voice!
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3507 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 7:30 am to
I'm thinking their plethora of national championships the past few years is a big factor, or do you think that's not important?
Posted by Settingthestandard
Titletown USA 2
Member since Apr 2013
521 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 8:43 am to
It all depends on the kid. I know when I was deciding on where to go to college I wanted to get away from home. Louisiana probably doesn't lose any more than any other state does. Winston is a good example of a stud we didn't get. It happens. As far as "exciting", everyone's idea of exciting is different. I've never been the biggest fan of New Orleans. Neither have I of Atlanta. Memphis is a dump. Tuscaloosa is much like any other college town. Between the ages of 18 and 22 there is stuff to do but I don't want my players having the temptation of an "exciting" city next door either. If boring you mean partying all the time, etc. No its not Baton Rouge but I don't want it to be and neither do most Alabamians. Different culture, different way of life with the 2. Even religion is different. I wouldn't be happy in LA just as you wouldn't be in Alabama. Alabama is boring to you, to me BTR and New Orleans are too high strung and too much BS goes on for me to be comfortable there. Just me and to each his own. I understand what you say but we ask ourselves when players have left, who would want to live in BTR? They don't even have Costco there
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Yes, they are a successful program. But we are too. What do Louisiana kids really see in Alabama that's not at LSU? Alabama is a worse state with lil to none excitement. Tuscaloosa is much smaller than Baton Rouge. New Orleans is a much more exciting city than fkn Birmingham. I could see losing Louisiana kids to Texas, but Alabama??? It's boring as fk out there. I just don't see the excitement for Alabama for a Louisiana kid. They are winning now, but once Saban leaves or retires, they will go back to average/good. I guess we just have to beat those clowns regularly to win our state back.





all you can do is just cry about it. kids are gonna play where they want to and theres nothing anyone can do about it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:08 am to
Championships. Once they stop winning them, they'll stop getting our recruits and those 1-2 bandwagoning recruits will go wherever the championships are.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 9:09 am
Posted by Swamprat
Gulf Shores, Alabama
Member since Oct 2003
214 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 10:50 am to
Bama pays more?
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5334 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:57 pm to
Bama won three out of the last four last BCSNCGs.

Bama could be in town far shittier than T-Town and still get the recruits.

We're close to taking that back. Be patient
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59129 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:05 pm to
Part of it is that we live in a sports culture that treats anything short of the ultimate championship in that sport as failure. Conference titles, 10-11 win seasons? Those are "moral" victories. Try and point out how close the difference is between teams, well you are just making excuses.

Alabama has won 3 of the last 4 BCS titles, so they get and have earned a lot of praise and coverage for that. Kids are also big band wagon jumpers. Because they are elite athletes and physically huge, its easy to forget that they are still kids. Saban won his first title at Bama when this current class was in 8th grade, that seems like forever when you are that age.

Of course Bama is a great program. They do have top of the line facilities and great coaches who are also great recruiters. All that gets the attention of a lot of top players.
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