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re: SI Offseason Grade: Pelicans...B-

Posted on 8/14/13 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 6:14 pm to
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this is the team we are stuck with for at least the next two seasons.


I think the team is happy to see what happens over the next two seasons. You don't put a roster like this together and expect to turn it over quickly.

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I thought that PG was fine with the Vasquez/Rivers combination for at least another season. I thought the team had bigger concerns. I don't get the Evans signing at all. Unless the team is convinced that he can play significant minutes at SF, it is a waste to me. Its the same thing that happened last offseason with Anderson. You make a big splash to sign someone at a position you are already set at.


I disagree on the PG and Vasquez was due a raise after this season. But I do think pgs are easier to find. I understand the other complaints. I disagree to an extent and I think there are ways to make it work, but I see what you're saying. I completely understand if you don't have faith that the coaching will figure out how to make it work.

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The average NBA career is under 4 years. Throwing Davis out, the other guys have all been in the league longer than that. Guys mature differently, but to project that they all get better at this stage in their career is just being optimistic. It might happen, but they might get worse as well. It should have happened already. If Evans was going to be a star, it would have happened


All 4 of those guys have proven to be good to very good NBA players. Evans put up 20/5/5 as a rookie. That's happened like 3 other times in league history* (Jordan and Bron did it too, so Evans has talent). Anderson has done things that only guys like Peja and Ray Allen have done. For the most part, these guys have played on bad teams in bad organizations and have been asked to do more than they are capable. No one is expecting any of them to become superstars, but there is still growth left in their games. Obviously no guarantee it happens, but there's no guarantee that Noel or McLemore are even in the league in 4 years. These guys (depending on Gordon's knees) will be in the league for another 10 years.

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What about one summer later. Next summer. Say this doesn't work, cause we have absolutely no post defense or post scoring and we get killed down low. The team barely misses the playoffs


If this team barely misses the playoffs, I can't imagine Demps will be on the hot seat. That means probably somewhere around 45 wins and an exciting finish to the season for a young, up and coming team. Ownership okayed these moves. They have expectations, but they also knew what they are getting into when they decided to bring these guys in. The team is still on Davis's timetable. It won't go anywhere unless he's very good. They could have their draft picks and could have signed a true center and a true SF. It would have looked nicer, but none of it matters if Davis isn't a star.

But say post defense kills them, that means Davis isn't the guy we thought he was. You can win without a traditional on the block center. Joakim Noah is listed at 232 and he has anchored the best defense in basketball the last 3 years. Post up possessions on offense are only mediocre in terms of efficiency. It's more of a Euro drive/kick and inside-out league and this roster is set up for that type of offense.

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I'm not trying to be a kill joy, I just don't like what they did. I'm old school when it comes to basketball. I like size down low and disciplined players that run an efficient system. I wanted a good Center (draft or FA) to keep Davis at PF and they actually got worse there


I get it. It's a wild team. It might not work at all, but let's see how it plays out before we decide that it won't work. I like the bet on Davis being ready to be the centerpiece of the team sooner rather than later.

Edit:

Third guy was Oscar.

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This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 6:25 pm
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