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re: 2011 Alternative Scenario
Posted on 7/30/13 at 4:20 pm to Bmath
Posted on 7/30/13 at 4:20 pm to Bmath
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False. LSU was undefeated in 2011. Alabama was second in their division, and didn't play for conference title. LSU was the best team in the conference. They already printed the shirts.
Outside of 1/9 I have never seen an objective argument as to why Bama was the better team during the regular season. Margin of victory was similar vs common opponents, but Bama didn't play anyone else worth a damn outside of the SEC West.
Bama rode into the championship using LSU as a proxy for what could have been. The media sold it, and the human polls bought it.
LSU flat out shite the bed during the NCG in 2012. It is what it is.
I'll bite. The defenses were even at worst. Alabama's offense was better. Do you think Alabama's offense played to their potential on 11/5/11? It took LSU overtime to beat Alabama's B or C game despite your Special Teams and defense playing better. On 1/9/12, your defense and special teams came to play, and Alabama was more than prepared for the offense you played. On 11/5/11, the game planned for Lee not Jefferson running the option. The option didn't really have that much success versus Alabama anyways, but it was enough for the win.
LSU did not shite the bed. Your defense and Special Teams came to play. Returns were a non-factor for both teams in both games. Kicking made a huge difference in the first game, and Alabama kicked better on 1/9/12. Jarrett Lee had a terrible career record against Alabama, so a quarterback switch would not have won you the game versus Alabama that night. They were getting excellent pressure on the quarterback and virtually took everything away.
LSU won on 11/5/11 because they made far fewer mistakes. When Alabama brought their A game, played less conservatively, and made no mistakes, LSU was blown out.
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 4:26 pm to Gardevoir
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LSU won on 11/5/11 because they made far fewer mistakes. When Alabama brought their A game, played less conservatively, and made no mistakes, LSU was blown out.
I was wondering how long it would take before the "beat ourselves" bit reared up.
Only Alabama did that the first game. LSU didn't beat themselves the 2nd game whatsoever. Only Alabama does that.
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 4:27 pm to Gardevoir
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LSU won on 11/5/11 because they made far fewer mistakes. When Alabama brought their A game, played less conservatively, and made no mistakes, LSU was blown out.
And there it is folks. The patented "LSU didn't win, bama just didn't play well and lost it" response
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 4:36 pm to Gardevoir
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Do you think Alabama's offense played to their potential on 11/5/11? It took LSU overtime to beat Alabama's B or C game despite your Special Teams and defense playing better.
Are we making excuses now? LSU actually got in the red zone, while Bama was trying 50 yd field goals.
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LSU did not shite the bed.
I would argue that the coaches did. Lee had a better track record at winning games from behind. Ask UT and UF's 2010 teams about his clutch passing late in the game. To say that Lee couldn't have made a difference is irrelevant considering we will never know.
At least you acknowledge that LSU was not put away until late in the game.
Like I said it is what it is.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 4:43 pm to Gardevoir
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I'll bite. The defenses were even at worst. Alabama's offense was better. Do you think Alabama's offense played to their potential on 11/5/11? It took LSU overtime to beat Alabama's B or C game despite your Special Teams and defense playing better. On 1/9/12, your defense and special teams came to play, and Alabama was more than prepared for the offense you played. On 11/5/11, the game planned for Lee not Jefferson running the option. The option didn't really have that much success versus Alabama anyways, but it was enough for the win.
That's a lot of typing to admit that, in the game touted as the biggest game of the century, BAMA lost at home with what everyone considered to be all the marbles on the line. Unless you're one of those guys who determines which team is better of factors other than the score, LSU was better when it appeared to matter most.
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LSU won on 11/5/11 because they made far fewer mistakes. When Alabama brought their A game, played less conservatively, and made no mistakes, LSU was blown out.
No conformation bias in any of that...
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