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re: Skip Bertman does not believe Jeremy Hill will be back

Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14778 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

The video of the incident does not support this.


You mean the video that only shows the last 20 seconds of the confrontation? Is it possible that what isn't seen helps to put context to what is seen? Or do you have an agenda that won't allow for any other possibilities?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:50 pm to
This thread blows.

No one knows anything. It was proven from Doucet himself that Skip said it was just his opinion. The rest of it is not even worth discussing.

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

routine bar fight


Please, tell what what the rules are for a routine bar fight
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

This thread blows.



Yeah, this thread needs to go the way of Old Yeller.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

3 players in three years is not a lot. Stop being myopic and look around to see what's going on at other schools. Iowa and TCU had drug dealing rings recently. Washington had half their offensive production get DUIs this offseason. Bama had four guys randomly jumping people and stealing their debit card. Notre Dame's starting QB committed academic fraud. Vandy just had four guys arrested on actual rape charges. LSU does not exist in a vacuum. Stop trying to pretend that they do.


Some guy at Mid Tennessee had his teammates video taping him choking his girlfriend. Roby from OSU just got in a fight at a bar with bouncers. Players have been suspended and kicked off teams everywhere, black, white, hispanic the whole offseason, so I don't understand that guy.

What don't get is that these guys know they are under a microscope and their are people everywhere ready to snap a photo or take a vid of them slipping even slightly. A fight is nothing as men are built on it, even if it was a swing coming out of left field.

Hell, I was just watching a the New Mexico bowl from last year and two Arizona players were swinging at each other on the sideline. Nothing happened. We're guys, stop being so soft. This is nothing but boys will be boys.
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
924 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:52 pm to
Lot of advocacy in here for a guy who walked from behind somebody and squarely jacked him in the face. That is pretty shitty behavior regardless, but this also came from somebody who was already on probation for getting a 14 year old to give him a BJ in a bathroom.

He's just not a good dude. The rest is just semantics trying to justify his reinstatement because we want LSU to better on the field.

As someone else said, if he didn't play football we would have never heard about it. On the other hand, if he didn't play football most of his advocates wouldn't be so understanding.
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 1:54 pm
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

This thread blows




Obama=Russian
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70550 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:56 pm to
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What don't get is that these guys know they are under a microscope and their are people everywhere ready to snap a photo or take a vid of them slipping even slightly.


Valid point. But it's too bad that it can't be discussed rationally here because there are so many perfect people posting on the board.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:59 pm to
RP, Mathieu, Hill—the bigger they are, the harder they fall around here.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158781 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 1:59 pm to
Cauble needs to handle Doucet
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 2:00 pm
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:01 pm to
Doucet is just trying to get clicks

And hey, it's working.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85156 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

getting a 14 year old to give him a BJ in a bathroom.


It's been established that he didn't "get" her to do anything.

quote:

He's just not a good dude.


As I'm sure you've gathered from your weekly conversations and get togethers.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Please, tell what what the rules are for a routine bar fight




No touching of the hair or face




Seriously though, as big of a bitch you are, I'm not shocked you think sneaking someone is routine.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126965 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

You mean the video that only shows the last 20 seconds of the confrontation?
Yes, the part that shows Hill sucker punched the guy.
quote:

Is it possible that what isn't seen helps to put context to what is seen?
No. The guy who got punched was walking away, staggering. What happened prior to that is irrelevant, even if the guy called Hill a racist name. That does not justify sucker punching a guy who clearly is not trying to fight. And that is especially true if the guy throwing the sucker punch is already on probation and has been told he has to walk the straight and narrow, or ELSE!

quote:

Or do you have an agenda that won't allow for any other possibilities?
My "agenda" is that we look at facts and not emotion fueled by a manic desire for a championship football season.

For one of the few times in my life I agree with Richard Condon: Hill is a hellava running back but he is a thug. He has proven he puts himself above the team. If he honestly wanted what was best for the team he would never have put himself in a situation where there might be a bar fight, period. And not only did he put himself in that situation, he was the aggressor in a bar fight, as documented in a video.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

The sneak attack does




That's your idea of a sneak attack?

Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Seriously though, as big of a bitch you are, I'm not shocked you think sneaking someone is routine.


The guy was being a dick and wouldn't stop trying to fight people, Hill tried to end it. I mean I guess it would have looked better if they would have squared each other up, but either way it's the same charge.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70550 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:06 pm to
Some of the people in this thread make me sad that they can actually believe some of the sanctimonious bullshite that comes out of their mouth.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

LSUfan4444


I like ya', but I think you're too harsh and unrealistic in this case, brother. We'll just have to disagree on the general nature of bar brawling.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

That's your idea of a sneak attack?


yes, ducking down to try and "hide" to hit an unsuspecting person is sneaking them.

Sorry that's how you fight.?.?

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126965 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Hill tried to end it.
By sucker punching the guy?

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