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re: Barry Larkin says no one associated with PEDs will be elected to HOF

Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:57 pm to
Yes but the point is that Andro started the witch hunt. Baseball writers refuse to acknowledge that their heroes of the past did the same thing as the modern day player . The hypocrisy of them and people like you, are in one word disgusting.

I side with Mike Schmidt on this issue. He has more clout and expertise than any of us when it comes to this.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:01 pm to
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Yes but the point is that Andro started the witch hunt


I remember Verducci's column in SI being a real eye opener.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:10 pm to
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Yes but the point is that Andro started the witch hunt.
Not the issue. McGwire used illegal steroids, and he has admitted this.
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Baseball writers refuse to acknowledge that their heroes of the past did the same thing as the modern day player
Prove it.
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The hypocrisy of them and people like you, are in one word disgusting.
^^^Blowhard trying to take moral highground after defending cheaters and misusing the word "hypocrisy."
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I side with Mike Schmidt on this issue. He has more clout and expertise than any of us when it comes to this.

Doesn't matter. Mike isn't above the rules or the law. The union dug itself a deep hole by protecting cheaters, so it is fair to associate everybody in that union at that time with cheating.

Not that I even disagree with anything Mike says here:
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"I really feel uneasy about linking players of that era to PEDs who may not have been involved, players where there may be suspicion of involvement," Schmidt said. "I think it's totally wrong that that whole generation is being linked to PEDs. If you had a friend that used them you're linked to them. It seems now if you're a Hall of Fame-caliber player that you're going to have a really tough time getting in the Hall of Fame. It's really too bad. It's a problem we have in our sport right now, but time will cure it."
Obviously anyone with half a brain knows that this makes sense. If you don't have evidence on somebody, innocence must be presumed in the official, on-paper sense.

The union could have outed the cheaters to protect the non-cheaters, but they didn't. And now MANY players will suffer whether they cheated or not. This is the kind of thing that happens when a corrupt union gets its way too often.

"Hypocrisy" Don't be a dope and try to claim the moral high ground. I don't care whether anyone is a bad person. I just want rules and laws to be followed. If a person can't play baseball and follow the rules and the law, then he should frick off and find something else to do.

And another thing, and another reason the players with Hall of Fame credentials blew it: all these players who cheated knew they were cheating, and they all knew that to get in the Hall of Fame they'd need the blessing of baseball writers, and they all knew that if it were ever found out that they had cheated to attain their Hall of Fame numbers, then they would lose a great deal of that blessing and probably not get in. So frick 'em. They're adults, and they knew the risks they were taking, and if they didn't, then that's kind of too bad. These boys need to man up and deal with the mistakes that they made (this will be a challenge for many of them considering that a lot of what these boys do shrinks one's balls).
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 1:23 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41248 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:18 pm to
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Yes but the point is that Andro started the witch hunt. Baseball writers refuse to acknowledge that their heroes of the past did the same thing as the modern day player


It came to ahead when Canseco wrote that McGwire was doing a whole lot more than just Andro.

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