re: Ryan ranked before Brees on "the list"

I hope the next time you have to go #2, your foot is asleep, and you forget your phone and there's nothing interesting to read in the bathroom, and things are slow going at first, and just as things get going, there's a knock on the door, and they don't stop knocking.

That's all I wish.

Amen.

Not speaking about last year, which obviously would've been different had Brees been paired with Payton (you'd be a fool
to deny this), but overall body of work. Brees is still a better QB than Ryan, and has shown he can win big games.

There are 4 elite quarterbacks
Rodgers
Brady
Manning
Brees

That's it.

Ryan is not in there, and until he wins some big games... Until he takes the next step, he remains in the 5-10, very good quarterback range.