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Of the Big 6 sports, is Hockey the only one with an undisputed GOAT?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:06 pm
Admittedly, I know very little about hockey, but I don't remember hearing or seeing anyone but Gretzky being mentioned as the GOAT.
Baseball- Ruth, Mays, Bonds & Aaron, among others in the discussion.
Football- Montana, Rice, Elway, Brown, Unitas etc... Although, Rice is pretty universally know as the GOAT WR.
Basketball- It use to be Jordan, but lately this has been brought up frequently. Others in the discussion- Jabbar, Russell, Chamberlain, Bird, etc... Of course, throw in Lebron & Kobe if you wish.
Soccer- Now I know even less about Soccer than Hockey, and I always thought Pele was the undisputed GOAT, but doing some research, I've seen names such as Messi, Zidane & Maradonna mentioned. Those knowledgable about Soccer, please feel free to chime in.
Golf- Woods or Nicklaus?
Is Gretzky the only undisputed GOAT?
Baseball- Ruth, Mays, Bonds & Aaron, among others in the discussion.
Football- Montana, Rice, Elway, Brown, Unitas etc... Although, Rice is pretty universally know as the GOAT WR.
Basketball- It use to be Jordan, but lately this has been brought up frequently. Others in the discussion- Jabbar, Russell, Chamberlain, Bird, etc... Of course, throw in Lebron & Kobe if you wish.
Soccer- Now I know even less about Soccer than Hockey, and I always thought Pele was the undisputed GOAT, but doing some research, I've seen names such as Messi, Zidane & Maradonna mentioned. Those knowledgable about Soccer, please feel free to chime in.
Golf- Woods or Nicklaus?
Is Gretzky the only undisputed GOAT?
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 4:24 pm
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:07 pm to ZZTIGERS
I'll play.
Absolutely.
No one will ever break Gretzsky's records. EVER.
Absolutely.
No one will ever break Gretzsky's records. EVER.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:07 pm to ZZTIGERS
Pele is the best of all time. But Gretzky was so far of everybody else you can't compare.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:08 pm to ZZTIGERS
I'd think The Great Bambino is the undisputed GOAT in Baseball
ETA: deserved or not, people will argue it but everyone seems to have been told Babe was the greatest and that's that
ETA: deserved or not, people will argue it but everyone seems to have been told Babe was the greatest and that's that
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:08 pm to ZZTIGERS
probably.
I heard a stat once that his assist is an absurd amount of points or goals whatever than number 2
but lebron is pretty undisputed imo
I heard a stat once that his assist is an absurd amount of points or goals whatever than number 2
but lebron is pretty undisputed imo
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:08 pm to ZZTIGERS
idk much about soccer but I would have thought Pele qualified.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:09 pm to mylsuhat
Nobody will ever dominate like the Wayner
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:09 pm to wish i was tebow
quote:not until he wins tomorrow. Then it's official.
but lebron is pretty undisputed
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:09 pm to beaverfever
quote:
not until he wins tomorrow. Then it's official.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:12 pm to ZZTIGERS
Pretty much, by the technical definition of "undisputed". In every other sport, experts/hardcore fans will argue for different players. Even basketball, like you mentioned, someone will say a guy like Wilt with his dominance or bring up Russell's championships. I think hockey's the only one where if you ask 100 hardcore fans or experts who the greatest player of all time, you'd likely get ALL 100 people to say the same person (and if they don't say Gretzky, it's not because they think someone's actually better, it's because they'd have some sort of bias for some reason. That or they're just insane).
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:13 pm to ZZTIGERS
quote:
Basketball- It used to be Jordan
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:16 pm to bwallcubfan
still is Jordan. Gretzky behind the goal directing traffic and being so creative. Revolutionized the game.
Can Fan does he still have that restaurant in downtown Tronna by the Air Canada Centre?
Can Fan does he still have that restaurant in downtown Tronna by the Air Canada Centre?
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:17 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Baseball - Ruth
Basketball - Jordan
Hockey - Gretzky
Basketball - Jordan
Hockey - Gretzky
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:17 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
A lot of hockey fans I know say Bobby Orr is the best of all-time.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:27 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:
A lot of hockey fans I know say Bobby Orr is the best of all-time.
Hipster fans. Orr was incredible, but you can't make a legitimate argument for him over Gretzky.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:28 pm to RonBurgundy
Bobby Orr changes the game as a rushing defenseman that could shoot and fly. If his knees didn't give out who knows. Two Ontario boys.
Good point
Good point
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:29 pm to ZZTIGERS
Yes. Gretzky broke more records in hockey than any player has in their sport. At least he had as of a few years ago, I am just assuming it is still the same.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:30 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:
A lot of hockey fans I know say Bobby Orr is the best of all-time.
Hipster fans. Orr was incredible, but you can't make a legitimate argument for him over Gretzky.
Nah, just old guys who don't think that the modern game is as tough as it used to be.
Hmmm... this sounds familiar...
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:31 pm to Indfanfromcol
He has all the records and they won;t be broken as the game has changed. Back then mor open and free skating with higher scores. Now more close checking and defense. Ever since the trap by the devils.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:33 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:
A lot of hockey fans I know say Bobby Orr is the best of all-time.
Hipster fans. Orr was incredible, but you can't make a legitimate argument for him over Gretzky.
Nah, just old guys who don't think that the modern game is as tough as it used to be.
Hmmm... this sounds familiar...
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