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Regarding the perceived increase in the number of men left on base in Omaha

Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:30 am
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:30 am
It was right on par with what LSU had done all year.

68 games / 583 LOB = 8.6 per game


2 games / 19 LOB = 9.5 per game


So only one more per game

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This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:33 am
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:32 am to
You can also skew that stat and say we get at least 9 men on base for every game.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:33 am to
I agree......and it seemed like too many. Is there a stat that measures efficiency of getting runners in and how did we stack up?

It seems like too many were left on all year, and that was a weakness that was made up for by our great pitching staff. Now I guess when you're winning 57 games those little things get passed over, but when the season gets compressed into small tournaments against above average to great teams they become more glaring.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:39 am to
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You can also skew that stat and say we get at least 9 men on base for every game

Doesn't matter how many guys you're getting on base if you leave them there
Posted by im4LSU
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:42 am to
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This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:43 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:47 am to
The UNC game was much worse.

LSU struggled mightily against UCLA. They couldn't piece anything together.

LSU hit the ball well and drew walks against UNC. They loaded the bases twice and had runners on 1st and 3rd with no outs once.

LSU's lack of clutch hitting all season finally hurt them at the worst time. The classic 2013 example was runners on 1st and 3rd and LSU scores a run by grounding into a double play.

All season LSU scored runs by getting outs when the bases were loaded.. not by getting hits.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:48 am to
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Doesn't matter how many guys you're getting on base if you leave them there



6.5 runs/game

ETA: another stat is we had the 5th highest winning margin/game, at +3.6
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:52 am
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:37 am to
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It was right on par with what LSU had done all year.

68 games / 583 LOB = 8.6 per game


2 games / 19 LOB = 9.5 per game


So only one more per game



This stat actually means our batting order was horrible. Especially having Ibarra follow Katz.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:38 am to
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6.5 runs/game


Imagine how many it would have been if the order would have been tweaked a little.


Oh well its the off season and we going to win it all next year!
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:30 am to
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Especially having Ibarra follow Katz.




I've wondered what the major drawback would be of going 8. Stevenson (if necessary I'd really like to have seen Foster as a fixture here) 9. Laird and then move Ibarra to 2.

I suppose that hurts your speed at the top tremendously....but coming to the second time around the order it basically gives you two leadoff hitters at the top in Laird and McMullen.

Of course I'm not the coach and I'm sure if Maineri could go back now he would change some things.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 7:32 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:34 am to
The fact that we scored 3 runs in those two games is worth mentioning.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:38 am to
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Especially having Ibarra follow Katz


Are you serious? Ibarra hit the ball the hardest and most consistent the entire weekend, just right at people. And it's Rhymes (who's approach was horrible) that followed Katz, not Ibarra.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:39 am to
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I've wondered what the major drawback would be of going 8. Stevenson (if necessary I'd really like to have seen Foster as a fixture here) 9. Laird and then move Ibarra to 2.

I suppose that hurts your speed at the top tremendously....but coming to the second time around the order it basically gives you two leadoff hitters at the top in Laird and McMullen.


Ohhh, dont start shifting the lineup around. People on here will have a shite-fit. I suggested this exact same thing about a week ago.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:42 am to
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Ohhh, dont start shifting the lineup around. People on here will have a shite-fit. I suggested this exact same thing about a week ago.




To their credit it is a helluva lot easier to speculate when we don't have a dog in the fight.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65898 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:42 am to
Raph gona Raph...how many double plays did he hit into in key moments, all year? He ended almost every odd inning yesterday....LSU had a batting order issue IMO, and was as unclutch as I've ever seen them through the years, while also having a great year...smh..Oh well, on to next year...
Posted by LaBornNRaised
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Member since Feb 2011
11013 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:47 am to
Right but Ibarra was 0 for his last 16 going into the elimination game. The way he hits is terrible for that ball park. Water under the bridge now anyway. We got ut next year.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89246 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:49 am to
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You can also skew that stat and say we get at least 9 men on base for every game.


In the Saturday night game against South Carolina, we had 14 hits. Which looks really impressive against a team of that caliber...until you realize we only scored 2 runs and lost.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
30288 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:51 am to
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In the Saturday night game against South Carolina, we had 14 hits. Which looks really impressive against a team of that caliber...until you realize we only scored 2 runs and lost.




Someone that never followed LSU this year would probably think you were lying about the run production in that game
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10575 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:12 am to
It's not a "perceived" increase, its an increase. Also, I'd be curious to see how many of the previous runners LOB were the end to multiple run innings, unlike the CWS. Cause when you start scoring alot of runs like we did all year, there are going to be guys on most likely when you end the inning.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 8:13 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:55 am to
You can leave 8.6 on base per game when you're scoring 8 runs.

When you score 3 runs in 19 innings, you can't leave 19 runners on base.

Its all relative.

We scored 6.4 runs per game over 68 games.

We scored 1.5 runs per game in CWS.

There's your difference.
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