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re: The Importance of Camp Evaluations and Offers

Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Is the player still favoring LSU? You said the circumstances changed, has the players feelings about LSU changed?


No, I don't think so.
Posted by SohCahToa
New Orleans, La
Member since Jan 2011
7786 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:42 pm to
Kizer is the only one I can think of where circumstances have changed to where we may no longer be the favorite. That ND offer really changed the game apparently.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65905 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:44 pm to
Sho nuff...LOL!
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10138 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:44 pm to
I like what you did there. Lol.
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10138 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:46 pm to
1 answer in response to 2 conflicting questions.
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

Great point, Mathieu was unheard of


Frank knew about Tyrann Mathieu...Tyrann went to Tennessee's Camp while frank was there with the hopes of earning an offer. He balled out but the staff thought he was too small...Frank tucked him in the back pocket for future use
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Is the player still favoring LSU? You said the circumstances changed, has the players feelings about LSU changed?


quote:

1 answer in response to 2 conflicting questions.


The answer to that question should have been: Objection, compound question.
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 10:53 pm
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

1. Should he camp at the schools that have offered so that he can evaluate the coaching staff and facilities and decide on his favorites.

Or

2. Should he camp at the school that has not offered with the possibility of not receiving an offer and also missing the camps of the schools that have offered?


Go to the school without the offer in hopes to earn one. It cant hurt to add more options and see more places.

If you have the offer in hand for the other school, just go there at a different time to visit the campus and see the coaches. Camps are too crazy to get an intimate view anyway. You already have the offer, no need to go to that camp and ball out.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

1. Should he camp at the schools that have offered so that he can evaluate the coaching staff and facilities and decide on his favorites. Or 2. Should he camp at the school that has not offered with the possibility of not receiving an offer and also missing the camps of the schools that have offered?


Why cant he camp at the unoffered school to try to earn an offer and officially visit the school that has offered him?
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:53 pm to
quote:


Frank knew about Tyrann Mathieu...Tyrann went to Tennessee's Camp while frank was there with the hopes of earning an offer. He balled out but the staff thought he was too small...Frank tucked him in the back pocket for future use


Frank may have, but the world had no clue who he was till the Tennessee camp. He def made a huge splash, and the recruitniks remembered his name from there on.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5241 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

These camps are an opportunity for guys that may have the talent to play at LSU to prove that they have the other intangibles to be an asset to the team.


In general, camps aren't a great opportunity to evaluate intangibles.

You can get a much better feel for intangibles by going to games & practices, and talking to the HS coaches, in my opinion.
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

Why cant he camp at the unoffered school to try to earn an offer and officially visit the school that has offered him?


The coaches at the offered schools asked him to camp
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10138 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65905 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Frank may have, but the world had no clue who he was till the Tennessee camp. He def made a huge splash, and the recruitniks remembered his name from there on.


Got a lot of praise going against Landry at that camp, and then the Rivals guys were nuts over him...They got it right, too...
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79110 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

Frank knew about Tyrann Mathieu...Tyrann went to Tennessee's Camp while frank was there with the hopes of earning an offer. He balled out but the staff thought he was too small


All true.

quote:

Frank tucked him in the back pocket for future use

False.
Tyrann commits July 2009
LSU hires Wilson December 2009

Noted alcoholic Ed Orgeron nixed Frank extending an offer at Tenn. The player that immediately committed to LSU when we hired Wilson was Anthony Johnson.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

The coaches at the offered schools asked him to camp


I swear this whole convo is pretty silly.

If the offer is contingent upon camping, then the player should look at the situation as he does not actually hold an offer from either school and he should camp at the one he likes the best.
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

quote: Frank tucked him in the back pocket for future use

False. Tyrann commits July 2009 LSU hires Wilson December 2009

Noted alcoholic Ed Orgeron nixed Frank extending an offer at Tenn. The player that immediately committed to LSU when we hired Wilson was Anthony Johnson.


Frank must have gotten that part of the story wrong then
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:06 pm to
Technically Frank did want Tennessee to extend an offer, but their staff was hesitant due to size. Frank was a big proponent of Mathieu, even though Matheiu committed to LSU before Frank was hired
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

If the offer is contingent upon camping, then the player should look at the situation as he does not actually hold an offer from either school and he should camp at the one he likes the best.


I didn't say the offers where contingent on him camping...Let me clarify, he was talking to the coaches about his greatest fear...which is to be in a situation where he and the position coach is not compatible. They asked him to camp with them to gauge their style
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 2:48 am
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

which is to be in a situation where he and the position coach is not compatible. They asked him to camp with them to gauge their style


idk why that cant be done at a visit

At a certain point I think this situation is over thought instead of looking at it simply, ie camp at the place you think you desire most.
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