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re: The Importance of Camp Evaluations and Offers

Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

What you do and how you look in a t shirt and shorts shouldn't be the deciding factor of whether you receive an offer to play football.


more about how you respond to what you're being asked to do, how well you receive coaching, etc.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:21 pm to
Offers like this are great to remind us how little recruiting services know

Chark will suddenly be a top 250 player in a few weeks
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:21 pm to
Dbl post
This post was edited on 6/10/13 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:22 pm to
Great post. Unfortunately the only ones who read it already know it.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62285 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:25 pm to
The DT from Bama a few years ago received an offer strictly from camp. He didn't have any film.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:26 pm to
So they should only offer kids they believe will actually sign with them?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27302 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:32 pm to
Good post! I can remember being at camp and dealing with guys no one could stop, or ones no one wanted to go up against. In modern times they could have easily been a 3-star.

If you're the star of a camp, you deserve and offer regardless of what Rivals rates you.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79109 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

The DT from Bama a few years ago received an offer strictly from camp. He didn't have any film.


There was no film on the recruiting sites, but that doesn't mean the coaches didn't have any to look at.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62285 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

receive coaching


Now that I love.

Like I said, it had zero to do with the player today. Happy he'll be a Tiger.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79109 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Now that I love.


That's why I asked if you ignored everything I put in the OP.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:44 pm to
Upchurch or Chark going to enroll early?
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

So they should only offer kids they believe will actually sign with them?

idk how u got that from my post.

my post suggests that the staff should only offer the players that the staff would probably accept if they verbaled to lsu.
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Good. Maybe someone that actually wants to discuss the topic of this thread will now join in.


You didn't have to address my question dude. I see that you hate to be wrong. I'll be Blount with you, going to camp is not the best option to receive a scholarship offer from a university. That only exists in your world.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:55 pm to
I disagree. Sometimes it's worth offering a kid ( who may not be LSU material) if he has a teammate the following year who may be a stud.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

I'll be Blount with you


oh snap, no need to punch him
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:57 pm to
You didn't have to address my question dude. I see that you hate to be wrong. I'll be Blount with you, going to camp is not the best option to receive a scholarship offer from a university. That only exists in your world.

Agree 100%
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79109 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

Sometimes it's worth offering a kid ( who may not be LSU material)

No. It's not.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:01 pm to
Yes it is
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

oh snap, no need to punch him


no punching bro, I would waste my precious energy on such a feeble little man...
Posted by tigerfan4120
Member since Dec 2003
3264 posts
Posted on 6/10/13 at 9:04 pm to
Did the DT from Bama end up signing with lsu? Nope. Recruiting and evaluating is a year round process. Chark will be back in July to compete with the big dogs, as will Upchurch. If either of those guys doesn't perform, or if either underperform their senior year, they won't be a part of the class. That's just the cold hard truth and goes for any big time program now. A verbal commit gives you the inside track on signing a kid, until pen is put to paper that is all.

That's why I don't get why people bitch about this stuff. The coaches probably agonize over these decisions - at the end of the day, their jobs are on the line. They are simply not going to take a player they don't feel will be a contributer. They recruit who they feel is the best, so you'd have to conclude based on the fact that they took his commitment they feel he's better than one of the guys who this board has fallen in love with. Good enough for me. When those decisions become a pattern of repeated failures, we start to lose football games. When we start to lose football games, coaches get fired. And so goes college football recruiting.
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