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re: Trade Down Scenarios

Posted on 5/28/13 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

"This year's draft sucks"

"Well you know what would make it better? MORE PICKS in this draft!"


Like I said, it depends on who is available.

If we don't like anyone at 6, we can move back and at least not have to pay as much for a player we'll be disappointed in.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

This year's draft sucks"

"Well you know what would make it better? MORE PICKS in this draft!"


I get what you're saying, but I'm sure in 3 years we'll look back and see maybe 1 or 2 guys from spots 6-10 that are worthy of being "top 10" picks. If Demps can get the guy he wants at 9 or 6, why not drop back to 9 and add another Pondexter or Vasquez to the team? You don't do it to get more picks, you do it to get more picks while getting the guy you wanted all along.
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

"This year's draft sucks"

"Well you know what would make it better? MORE PICKS in this draft!"

It sucks because you won't find many allstars at the top of the draft, but trading back may give you 2-3 serviceable bench players as opposed to 1 slightly better bench player
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 2:55 pm to
Do we really need to be doing that?

I'd rather take the chance on starter/star quality.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:00 pm to
This team has lots of backup quality players, I think. Just very few starters.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:02 pm to
But then what happens if it ends up being another Julian Wright? We end up with nothing to show for in this draft. With 2-3 picks, you still have something to show for if one is a bust. Plus, I'm not planning on anyone we draft really being an immediate starter except for Porter. If we trade down and get Shabazz or someone like that, he'd probably be a bench player behind a mid level SF we draft in FA. So that way, you improve the bench play, which was why we were so bad this year, and you've got 2-3 chances that one of those players was a steal and pans out to be a great starter in the league
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:02 pm to
Hence, trade the pick.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:03 pm to
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This team has lots of backup quality players, I think. Just very few starters.


I somewhat agree with you. But we also only have about 2-3 quality backups on our bench
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130611 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:11 pm to
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Hence, trade the pick.


That makes the opposite of sense unless you mean trade for veterans.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:14 pm to
Well when you break it down by roster position, you're really just looking for starters at PG and SF. I think you can sign a starting SF and trade for a guy like Bledsoe. You can live with Lopez as a starter for now, especially because he will split minutes with the Davis/Anderson rotation.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130611 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:15 pm to
Let me rephrase: Good, playoff quality starters.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:20 pm to
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That makes the opposite of sense unless you mean trade for veterans.


You probably don't pay attention to what I say, but I've been saying to trade the pick for an established starter (DeMar DeRozan type) for the past couple of months.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:22 pm to
Well its a bad offseason for that. Bad draft class and bad FA class
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130611 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Well its a bad offseason for that. Bad draft class and bad FA class



Which is why you have to make the most with what you've got. You take the player you think will be best at 6 unless you're getting a great deal for a very good vet.

Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25749 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

You probably don't pay attention to what I say, but I've been saying to trade the pick for an established starter (DeMar DeRozan type) for the past couple of months.


Yeah, because the Raptors would do that
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Is the 6th pick really that valuable?

I'd love the OKC trade. You could still end up with a guy like Saric or Zeller at 12

Like someone else said, it depends on who is there. But we're definitely a team that needs quality over quantity right now.

Yeah, we can get Saric or Zeller at 12 and get a couple of guys that will probably get cut within the next year, or we can stay at 6 and get Len or Shabazz (just using those two to compare to Zeller and Saric, who I both strongly dislike).
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 4:00 pm to
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Yeah, because the Raptors would do that


Jesus H.

For the umpteenth time. I said a DeRozan type player. Not necessarily DeRozan in particular. Ughhhhhhhh.
Posted by The 25 Jersey
Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2007
1346 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 4:58 pm to
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Jesus H.

For the umpteenth time. I said a DeRozan type player. Not necessarily DeRozan in particular. Ughhhhhhhh.


So you're saying DeRozan is not a DeRozan type player?

Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

So you're saying DeRozan is not a DeRozan type player?




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