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Five0
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It works.





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cwill
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Who on this board lives in fear of a Mexican drug cartel...the problem in Mexico is serious, here it's mostly imaginary.

And if you legalize drugs bad guys will still be bad guys but they'll be bad guys with significantly less money and no overarching enterprise around which to organize.






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Five0
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Who on this board lives in fear of a Mexican drug cartel...the problem in Mexico is serious, here it's mostly imaginary.


Ignorance is bliss. [Not an insult]






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cwill
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Ignorance is fear....you benefit from it.





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Who on this board lives in fear of a Mexican drug cartel...the problem in Mexico is serious, here it's mostly imaginary.

And if you legalize drugs bad guys will still be bad guys but they'll be bad guys with significantly less money and no overarching enterprise around which to organize.


The big difference is you do not see the present threat and therefore cannot appreciate the significant problems it will present in the future. The legalization of every drug isn't happening (except mariquana) anytime soon.






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Five0
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Don't for a second think that legalization will affect the cartels. Their ruthlessness is matched only by their business savvy. They will undercut taxed products.





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RogerTheShrubber
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Don't for a second think that legalization will affect the cartels. Their ruthlessness is matched only by their business savvy. They will undercut taxed products.


Maybe, but I don't see the profit and the power that comes with it. The market will be substantially smaller IMO.







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MrCarton
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The motive of the cartels is profit, not political change.



Wrong. Cartels want political power.






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Five0
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Wrong. Cartels want political power.


They already have that in the South. They don't need it here.






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Interception
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Maybe, but I don't see the profit and the power that comes with it. The market will be substantially smaller IMO.


Legalizing what exactly, weed? I can't see any other drug being legalized anytime soon.






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MrCarton
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They already have that in the South. They don't need it here.



Of course they need it here.






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RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe, but I don't see the profit and the power that comes with it. The market will be substantially smaller IMO.


Legalizing what exactly, weed? I can't see any other drug being legalized anytime soon.




Just hypothetical.







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Interception
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Although mariquana is 80% of the drug trade.

Legalizing weed could help law enforcement focus on hard drugs.






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Five0
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Why? They have a protected base of operations.





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Five0
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re: Should Cartels be labeled Terrorist?


Why? They have a protected base of operations.





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MrCarton
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re: Should Cartels be labeled Terrorist?


Yes, they are terrorist in every sense of the word. These cartels ultimately want to fall under the protective umbrella of "legitimate government" in what becomes a hybrid narco/government. What they want is political and they use public violence and fear to achieve it.

What is shocking is that while the terrorist acts committed by these cartel members are brutal, commonplace, and extremely public, we still prefer to think of them as businessmen first using terror as a profit ploy instead of perpetrators of the purest forms of terrorism there is.

Comparing drug cartels to organizations like Hezbollah, who in their wildest dreams have not touched the pure violence and political success that come from the cartels, is like comparing the Atlanta Braves to your kids little league ball team.

Anyhoo, very good OP. I encourage people to read more about cartels and their relationship with international violence. If anything it puts the term terrorism and its objectives in a much clearer view.





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Tchefuncte Tiger
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Yes, and they should be dealt with militarily. Drones, anyone?





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cwill
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The big difference is you do not see the present threat and therefore cannot appreciate the significant problems it will present in the future


What big threat is it to the US???






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NC_Tigah
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What big threat is it to the US???
Are we using that as definition of "terrorist"?






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cwill
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They're suggesting military involvement along the border and drones...and you well know the results of calling something "terrorism".





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