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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:08 pm to DMagic
Then second season of Jordan retirement Pippen led team in scoring, assist, rebounding, minutes, and steals until Jordan returned for 17 games
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:08 pm to tduecen
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Pippen when Jordan retired led Bulls in scoring at 22 a game, also minutes per game, second in rebounding per game, and led team in assist and steals.
Yep, and Carmelo Anthony has better averages as the focal point of the offense.
Look, Scottie Pippen was great. Everyone knows this. But, comparing him to Carmelo Anthony as players just doesn't work. Sure, they played the same position, but they were asked to do different things.
It is TOTALLY different when a team looks for YOU to be THE GUY to take that last second shot.
Pippen didn't have that burden for his career, so you people dogging Melo is just foolish.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:09 pm to SabiDojo
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cough*...Kobe *cough*
Kobe is 10 TIMES the player Melo will EVER BE............... FACT. DSPUTE THIS BITCH.........
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:10 pm to dukke v
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DSPUTE THIS BITCH.........
NOW I believe the trailer park story.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:12 pm to SabiDojo
Carmelo has never averaged over 4 APG
Scottie averaged 5.2 for his career including his shitty years. He's also a superior rebounder.
Scottie averaged 5.2 for his career including his shitty years. He's also a superior rebounder.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:12 pm to SabiDojo
So Carmelo scores more (and shoots more) and that means he is better? Even though when Pippen became the "man" he led his team in all statistical categories, but his scoring wasnt as high so not as good?
Pippen did his scoring averaging 17.8 shots a game,
Carmelo's first two seasons he was around that avg and his scoring numbers looked like Pippens.
Pippen did his scoring averaging 17.8 shots a game,
Carmelo's first two seasons he was around that avg and his scoring numbers looked like Pippens.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:12 pm to SabiDojo
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NOW I believe the trailer park story.
WTF????????
You need to SAY SOMETHING TO ME????????????
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:13 pm to SabiDojo
Pippen is a better overall player and your arguments are futile.
Everyone agrees the Melo is the better scorer.
Everyone agrees the Melo is the better scorer.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:13 pm to DMagic
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Scottie averaged 5.2 for his career including his shitty years. He's also a superior rebounder.
Again? Carmelo and Pippen had the same DEFENSIVE rebounding averages for their career, and their range is almost EXACTLY identical.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:13 pm to tduecen
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So Carmelo scores more (and shoots more) and that means he is better?
Pippen shoots less and he is better?
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:14 pm to dukke v
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You need to SAY SOMETHING TO ME????????????
Yes. Don't act like trash.
ETA: FWIW, I like you, PJ. No need for this to get ugly.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:15 pm to SabiDojo
Are we not including assists in this discussion? Was the question about Prime Pippen vs Prime Melo? Then Scottie rebounding is the winner. Plus Melo hasn't gotten to his twilight phase to bring all those averages down.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:16 pm to SabiDojo
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Pippen shoots less and he is better?
Do YOU know ANYTHING about the game of basketball??????? So by YOUR logic... Melo is better than Lebron because he is a pure scorer and that is ALL it takes to be better than another player......
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:19 pm to SabiDojo
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Yes. Don't act like trash.
OK. then DO NOT bring up ANYTHING about the so-called trailer park story......... NOT sure WHAT story you are referring to... Why don't you tell me and we can get it out of the way............
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FWIW, I like you, PJ
That's cool...........
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. No need for this to get ugly.
I am just giving you MY opinion from watching BOTH play and I am serious when I say I have watched a SHITLOAD more sporting events than you have. LEARN from your elders...........
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:20 pm to DMagic
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Then Scottie rebounding is the winner. Plus Melo hasn't gotten to his twilight phase to bring all those averages down.
Their defensive rebound percentages are similar. Just stop. I'm not even looking at Pippen's "twilight years".
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:21 pm to SabiDojo
Their rebounding averages are identical at 6.4 for their careers. Melo's will most certainly come down from that.
Please dude you're being foolish
Please dude you're being foolish
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:22 pm to dukke v
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Do YOU know ANYTHING about the game of basketball??????? So by YOUR logic... Melo is better than Lebron because he is a pure scorer and that is ALL it takes to be better than another player......
I never said that. I just think it is funny that everyone in this thread seems to disregard offensive production.
As for defense, of course Pippen was the better defender. But, why don't you look at some of Carmelo's defensive stats before you start acting like he is not in the same league as Pippen.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:29 pm to SabiDojo
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I never said that. I just think it is funny that everyone in this thread seems to disregard offensive production.
Where in this thread have I said that Pippen was a better scorer than Pippen????? He was/is.........
But the OTHER parts of the game overweigh what Meo has done by being a ballhog shooter......
Pippen was a COMPLETE player. Melo is NOT. Its just A FACT...........
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:31 pm to SabiDojo
quote:defensive win shares, not in the same league.
As for defense, of course Pippen was the better defender. But, why don't you look at some of Carmelo's defensive stats before you start acting like he is not in the same league as Pippen.
Hell, WS/48, Pippen has better numbers as well.
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