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re: Better in their prime, Melo or Pippen?

Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:50 pm to
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He took the Nuggets to the WCF that one time





LINK???????????
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:52 pm to
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Where has MELO taken ANY team???????? quote:Anthony was a major part in the turn around of the Denver Nuggets from league laughingstock to playoff contender. In the season before Anthony was drafted by the team, the Nuggets finished with a 17–65 record, which tied them for worst in the NBA with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They finished the 2003–04 campaign with a 43–39 overall record, qualifying them as the eighth seed for the post-season. Anthony became the first NBA rookie to lead a playoff team in scoring since David Robinson of the San Antonio Spurs during the 1989–90 season.[14] In the 2004 NBA Playoffs, the Nuggets faced the top-seeded Minnesota Timberwolves in the first round. In Anthony's first career playoff game, he had 19 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists, in a 106–92 loss at Minnesota.[33] The Timberwolves eliminated the Nuggets in five games.[34]




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That's his rookie season. Should I go on?


You may have too cause that means nothing to me........... Tell me how many years that a team that has MELO on it won a playoff series............. GOOD LUCK. And I am NOT talking about a TEAM concept. You brought it up,,
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:53 pm to
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The Nuggets won the Northwest Division and placed 2nd in the Western Conference, finishing the season with a franchise record-tying 54 wins (54–28 overall). Anthony averaged 22.8 ppg and made a career high 37.1% of his shots from three-point range. After losing in 5 straight playoff appearances (2004–2008), on April 29, 2009, Anthony won his first playoff series when the Nuggets beat the New Orleans Hornets at home 107–86 where Anthony finished with a playoff career high 34 points and 4 steals. In a post-game conference Anthony said "Yeah, finally.. Took me 5 years to get that gorilla off my back, it's a great feeling." The Nuggets beat the Hornets in five games in the first round of the playoffs and proceeded to beat the Dallas Mavericks 4–1 in the conference semifinals with Anthony scoring 30 points in a solid game 5 performance. In the third game of the semifinals, Anthony made a last second three-point shot to give the Nuggets the win after being down by 2 points (103–105). Denver advanced to the conference finals, but was eliminated, 4–2, by the Los Angeles Lakers on his birthday.
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:55 pm to
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And I am NOT talking about a TEAM concept.


You asked what Melo did for a team. I told you. The Nuggets were HOT GARBAGE before Melo got there, and he made them playoff contenders.

Melo carried a team. Pippen never had to.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:55 pm to
Pippen took a Jordan-less Bulls to the ECF though so at worst they're even.



Just looked it up it was the semis. I was wrong
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 4:57 pm
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:56 pm to
Wasn't Chauncy billups, Kenyon Martin, Nene, and JR Smith on the team?
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:57 pm to
Yep
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:57 pm to
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The Nuggets won the Northwest Division and placed 2nd in the Western Conference, finishing the season with a franchise record-tying 54 wins (54–28 overall). Anthony averaged 22.8 ppg and made a career high 37.1% of his shots from three-point range. After losing in 5 straight playoff appearances (2004–2008), on April 29, 2009, Anthony won his first playoff series when the Nuggets beat the New Orleans Hornets at home 107–86 where Anthony finished with a playoff career high 34 points and 4 steals. In a post-game conference Anthony said "Yeah, finally.. Took me 5 years to get that gorilla off my back, it's a great feeling." The Nuggets beat the Hornets in five games in the first round of the playoffs and proceeded to beat the Dallas Mavericks 4–1 in the conference semifinals with Anthony scoring 30 points in a solid game 5 performance. In the third game of the semifinals, Anthony made a last second three-point shot to give the Nuggets the win after being down by 2 points (103–105). Denver advanced to the conference finals, but was eliminated, 4–2, by the Los Angeles Lakers on his birthday.



OK. How does THIS make him better than Pippen?????? YOU keep using Melos OFFENSE you have yet to describle how Melo is better than Pippen in ANY other area... Pippen had a HUGE year for the Bulls the 1st year after MJ retired. YOU won't look at that will ya........
Posted by motorbreath
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:59 pm to
Pippen. Nobody over 30 will say melo.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:59 pm to
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Just looked it up it was the semis. I was wrong



Horace Grant, Armstrong, Kerr......hardly by himself.
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:59 pm to
Pippen averaged 22 9 6 that year
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 4:59 pm to
Neither was Carmelo's
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:00 pm to
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Melo carried a team


Oh yea. He is REALLY carrying the Knicks somewhere huh??????????/ Melo knows only ONE thing. SHOOT,SHOOT ,SHOOT........... He is TERRIBLE teammate..........
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:01 pm to
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Wasn't Chauncy billups, Kenyon Martin, Nene, and JR Smith on the team?



Isn't that part of the point? Carmelo led the team in scoring, and he was their leader. SCOTTIE PIPPEN WAS NOT THE LEADER OF THE CHICAGO BULLS.

You people compare two players who played two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ROLES on their team, even though they played the same position.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:01 pm to
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Oh yea. He is REALLY carrying the Knicks somewhere huh??????????/ Melo knows only ONE thing. SHOOT,SHOOT ,SHOOT........... He is TERRIBLE teammate..........



*cough*...Kobe *cough*
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 5:02 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:02 pm to
I think Kenyon Martin, Chauncy, Nene could take Grant, Armstrong, Kukoc in 3 on 3
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:04 pm to
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I think Kenyon Martin, Chauncy, Nene could take Grant, Armstrong, Kukoc in 3 on 3



Let's take the two seasons Michael Jordan wasn't with the Bulls. Pippen never averaged more than 22 ppg. 22 ppg are probably Carmelo's worst season averages.

ETA: I didn't mean to quote that portion. Scratch it.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 5:05 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:05 pm to
Pippen when Jordan retired led Bulls in scoring at 22 a game, also minutes per game, second in rebounding per game, and led team in assist and steals.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:06 pm to
He only averaged 22.6 last year


21.8 rookie year
20.6 sophomore


22.8 when they went to the WCF
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