re: Star Trek into Darkness: Discussion and SPOILERS thread

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Oh and my other biggest problem is that it was a Star Wars movie with Star Trek characters

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I was never a Trekie, so I've never had a problem with this, but you are completely correct on this point. It is definitely a Star Wars movie. Like I think that 2009's Star Trek should have basically been Star Wars Episode I, yet again this is what Episode II should have been. I mean for frick's sake, its got genetically engineered human beings who are vastly superior in every way to humanity. Seems like Lucas should have done something like this in the prequels instead of the lame storm troopers merely being the clones.

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In fact, this latest movie is more action packed than any of the Star Wars prequels.

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And its good action. I never thought for a second that it was choreographed. That's all I can help but think in the prequel duels. As Plinkett puts it: LINK

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Roddenberry and his wife (Majel Barrett [Nurse Chapel {liked the nod to her in STID}]) are no longer with us, but I think they would BOTH be pleased with Abrams' two offerings thusfar.

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Honestly, I don't think they would. I really liked this film, my favorite of the year so far, but kinda like Tolkein and how LOTR was adapted, I get the feeling Roddenberry would hate Abrams franchise.

And TNG was great and I think Roddenbury would be happy with those... until the movies were made at least.

ROTFLMMFAO

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Alright Ace, not sure if you have done it in a previous post but if you would please lay out for all of us the ideal casting, plot line and original show elements that would be in your ideal Trek movie.

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I'm not certain this would have a wide audience. I'm afraid it would not be received in the spirit in which it is intended.

The thing about this movie that stood out the most to me was that Spock sounds a lot like Bill Franquez.

Sorry to bump, but my god this movie sucked and I was grinding my teeth in ban land, wanting to post.

I saw it the day it came out. It was scatterbrained and disjointed. It spent way too much time on the interpersonal relationships between the characters (it's sci fi. who gives a ahit?). You all patted him on the back and said he was brilliant when he used perhaps the most hackneyed plot device of all time, "time travel," and now you're seeing the lame result. Dude will be able to make 10 more of these, simply feeding us the Star Trek canon all over again, differently flavored and disorganized, because he "changed the time line." They crammed 4 movies worth of regurgitated previous plot references into one movie, and they kept distracting from the main plot. Hence, "scatterbrained."

Completely agree that Khan wasn't Khan until the last few minutes of the movie. In fact, the only characters who were enjoyable were Scotty and Bones. Khan had enormous potential, but they wasted it. The romance between Spock and Uhuru and the friendship-establishing dialog between Kirk and Spock were completely unnecessary and got in the way of what is supposed to be an action movie.

This movie has all the hallmarks of too many self-loving "geniuses" all wanting to add their own dipshit flair to the movie.

Expect the exact same with the Star Wars movies.

Some fun scenes but it tried too hard. Too dramatic, too fast.

I was exhausted before the end.

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blueboy

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AceMidnight's partner in crime in bashing the new Star Trek franchise???



Your points are somewhat fair but I still disagree.

Good Lord.