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Zach Braff's Kickstarter Film Lands Full Financing

Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:19 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:19 pm
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Worldview Entertainment has stepped in to fund much of "Wish I Was Here," which has raised more than $2.6 million on the crowd-funding site.

Zach Braff’s successful Kickstarter campaign for Wish I Was Here has helped the actor-director land a leading film financier: Worldview Entertainment.

"Zach has proven again that he is a creative force in independent film, and we were immediately drawn to his powerful and unique story," said Worldview CEO Christopher Woodrow, who revealed the news at the Cannes Film Festival, where his financing and production company has three films premiering in various sections of the festival.

Wish I Was Here has been generating headlines since April?24 when it became the latest film project to turn to the popular crowd-funding site for help. To date, the project has raised more than $2.6 million from more than 38,000 people, exceeding the $2 million goal.

The movie will be financed through a combination of Kickstarter, gap financing from Worldview and foreign presales by Wild Bunch. The movie stars Braff as a young man who, upon learning that his father is dying, must take a second look at his life and reconnect with his family. The budget is less than $10?million.


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I really am not fond of this becoming a trend.

They get $2.6 million in crowd funding which is really just $2.6 million more in profit for them.

It would be one thing if those that helped fund it on Kickstarter were also getting a piece of the pie instead of signed t-shirts or whatever they promised, but this sets a dangerous precedent for movie companies to try and make people pay twice for a movie.

Kickstarter should be for independent projects that wouldn't otherwise have means to the funds needed. Not for studios and financiers to offset their risk. Zach Braff is a successful actor and filmmaker who obviously had other funding options he could seek. I thought he took to Kickstarter so he didn't have to find funding and would have complete control of the project and now he is funded by someone else? Seems like this was a set up all along.

When this starts happening more and more, and it will, other great indie projects will get overlooked and lose potential KS funds pretty much killing them.

I was all for the Veronica Mars project at first but now I see the dangers it has potentially brought to light.

This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 6:57 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:21 pm to
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Posted by sbr2
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:23 pm to
Most people support for the perks they receive at different levels or they like what the kickstarter is about, I think the latter will continue to fund the smaller indie projects. I do think it is shifty that he started out on Kickstarter and then got major financial support from another source, but for the bigger projects kickstarter only serves as a portion of the budget.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:24 pm to
Yeah Braff was all pissy at Morgan Freeman, but he was right. Kickstarter is for people who can't get financing, not for those that can get it, but want complete project control.

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:30 pm to
I dont see the problem

People can spend money how they see fit. If you think the movie is just pocketing that money, then dont donate
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:32 pm to
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I dont see the problem

People can spend money how they see fit. If you think the movie is just pocketing that money, then dont donate



Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:33 pm to
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People can spend money how they see fit. If you think the movie is just pocketing that money, then dont donate



All 100% correct. My problem is the potential for studios to exploit this further in the future and basically hold fanbases hostage.

The other issue I have is that smaller true indie projects start to get lost in the shuffle when bigger, more publicized stars and companies take to KS more.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:35 pm to
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but for the bigger projects kickstarter only serves as a portion of the budget.


I would have had no issues had he made this clear from the start but instead his whole story was originally about wanting no outside financing so he could have full control including the final cut. Seems like BS now.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:36 pm to
Could easily become another grassroots marketing tool for big studios.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116209 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:44 pm to
I agree some more security needs to be added for the donators sake if thats what your point is

I still think its more good than bad
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:54 pm to
Meh. I don't have an issue with it. If you don't want to donate don't donate.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:55 pm to
We already covered that. Keep up.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 6:55 pm to
I agree 100% with everything you posted. Braff's kick starter really annoyed me when I first saw it
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/15/13 at 8:03 pm to
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Kickstarter should be for independent projects that wouldn't otherwise have means to the funds needed. Not for studios and financiers to offset their risk.



I'm with ya on that. I recently got an e-mail about Dirtfoot asking to crowdsource their next album. They did it for their last album and have been touring regularly... where the frick did their money go?

They're just being greedy imo. They sell merch, have tons of shows, play big festivals, with the technology out there now it's pretty inexpensive to record albums and videos.

I'm not giving them a dime, I've kicked in on local projects before. Sometimes it's just putting a $20 bill in the band member's hands at the end of the night and saying here's a little extra gas money brother.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:43 am to
Kevin Smith gets it

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Writer-director Kevin Smith won't use Kickstarter to get his long-gestating Clerks III project off the ground.

The filmmaker, who has recently completed his first draft of the movie's 137(!) page screenplay, took to Reddit recently to explain why he changed his original stance on crowd-sourcing funds for the movie.

"We nearly Kickstarted the budget back in November," explained Smith. "But now I'm feeling like that's not fair to real indie filmmakers who need the help. Unlike back when I made CLERKS in '91, I've GOT access to money now - so I should use that money and not suck any loot out of the crowd-funding marketplace that might otherwise go to some first-timer who can really use it."

Smith will instead fund the movie himself, explaining that the crowd-funding model should be left to "the next generation of artists."
Nicely put, Mr. Smith.


Posted by CP3LSU25
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:51 am to
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Kevin Smith


he's a fat arse loser anyway.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:54 am to
Zach Braff sucks
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:55 am to
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Zach Braff sucks


Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:03 am to
You're all acting as if Braff had the ability to garner financing prior to the Kickstarter fund.

The Kickstarter fund is, among other things, a way to show potential investors that your movie idea has a market, that people are interested. Without the Kickstarter fund, Braff very well may not have been able to get any financial backing other than his own money.

And it's not like he got a ton of money from Worldview. The project is only estimated to have a budget of $10M at the high end. We also know that Worldview didn't even finance the difference between the money raised on Kickstarter and the final budget number because the film is also financed through foreign presales by Wild Bunch.

For all we know, Braff is using the $2.6M from Kickstarter, $2M of his own money, $2M from Worldview and $2M from Wild Bunch. That's $8.6M, which falls within the budget. Or really it could be any combination like that. Maybe Braff is investing $4M of his own money. Who knows?

I could see it being a problem if he got it started on KickStarter, raised $2.6M, then went to Warner Bros and said, "See?? I told you there's a market!" and Warner Bros gave him $100M. But this is different. At least 25% of the funding is coming from crowd-funding. I just don't see the issue.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 10:04 am
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
183029 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:04 am to
Right...famous director, actor, producer, author, TV reality star, script writer, etc.

That's no doubt the resume of a loser.
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