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re: Benghazi Whistleblowers: Reinforcements told to stand down/Refusal of help

Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:36 pm to
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And it certainly isn't his place to offer up suggestions for how the military should do its job


You are 100% incorrect. A foreign embassy is under attack...the military is laying out options immediately for reprisals and/or to get the people out...LP (Leon Panetta) has already admitted he was on the phone in the situation room IN THE WH!!! LP is receiving info and plans are either being laid to act, not act, or other options, and if LP is receiving info re an ongoing attack of a US embassy, you can bet your arse BHO was either in the room with him, or receiving updates every 5 minutes.

Testimony has already been given that the embassy requested and WAS GRANTED by the Lybian govt to use its airspace...you think that happens at a low level tier of the State Dept or the DOD?? Hell f$%^## no!!!


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A) the President, without the suggestion from the military leaders in the room, should have started telling local air units to take off and maybe send in forces on the C-130?
He is the CIC, the military will jump in the Atlantic if ordered to do so. A President is given options, many options by top brass and he is making the call to use or go in a different direction.

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B) do you think the generals were screaming at him yelling "Our men are dying! We need you to authorize jets and the C-130!" but he refused?
There would be no screaming at the CIC, generals lose jobs for it. But if BHO refused sound action that was laid out him, shame on him.


The following DID NOT happen: BHO did not receive any input for miliatry options and was begging for advice on how to act. That is a certainty.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35474 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:47 pm to
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There would be no screaming at the CIC, generals lose jobs for it.
I would lose my job if there was a life on the line.

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Testimony has already been given that the embassy requested and WAS GRANTED by the Lybian govt to use its airspace...you think that happens at a low level tier of the State Dept or the DOD?? Hell f$%^## no!!!
Probably a pretty automatic request as they were considering options.

So why would Obama tell air units to stand down if he had permission to use the air space by the Lybian government? Do you think he might have been told by the military that it wouldn't be effective? If you were the Prez and they say that he could send in jets but they tell you that it would be a bad idea, how would you have answered?
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The following DID NOT happen: BHO did not receive any input for miliatry options and was begging for advice on how to act. That is a certainty.
Why would he be begging for advice as to how to act? The military had every authorization they asked for. It is their job to decide how to react and / or provide options.
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