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Tigah in the ATL
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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concerning a real, and generally accepted intellectual concept.
that you have misapplied.






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SlowFlowPro
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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that you have misapplied.

to an extent, but his point still applies

if the environment is the public good, it is still going to get abused . the US is just going to frick itself over economically in the process by limiting our use of petro products. the increased prices hurt us while china/india (and whatever other country emerges in time) will use more of them due to lower prices, making up the difference

so what's the point of fricking ourselves?






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SlowFlowPro
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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It's why market forces won't prevent pollution.

it's possible, along multiple levels






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cwill
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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Yes because my typo from posting from my phone at jazz fest is equal to your lack of knowledge concerning a real, and generally accepted intellectual concept.


You didn't get it...understandable.






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Zach
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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Big corporations love "green energy" as it allows them more tax breaks if they invest/use this crap.

No, they don't. Green energy adds costs for no reason since green energy is stupid. They pay lip service to green because of marketing to morons who believe it will save the earth.

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Fortune 500's are the major reasons why we have Obamacare and green energy bs. frick 'em!


No, they aren't. Leftists are the reason for Obamacare. Are the Fortune 500 companies a bunch of socialists? Really?






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CptBengal
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


[quote]that you have misapplied[\quote]

no I havent. since fossil fuels are sold on a global, and thus common market, the market pressure that is removed becomes the same effect as experienced through the tragedy of the commons....






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CptBengal
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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You didn't get it...understandable.


keep up that feigned intelligence, it's cute






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Tigah in the ATL
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Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


no, a better principle is the prisoner's dilemma.





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BayouBlitz
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Birmingham
Member since Aug 2007
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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CptBengal


Sure, let's just use up all the fossil fuels, and figure out what to do without them afterwards. I have no problems taking a shite on future generations.







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cwill
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Member since Jan 2005
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


The US isn't going green. We have the cheapest fuel costs in the world, green can't compete. These "concerns" are raised by people that have no idea what they're talking about...they're chasing shadows.





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Jax-Tiger
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Portland, OR
Member since Jan 2005
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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They're the ones who have access to the power structure and can buy off the politicians.


The real reason is that the smaller businesses don't have the resources to comply with all the additional regulations. The big companies can absorb the cost of compliance, whereas the little guy doesn't have the revenue...






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dominustd
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Member since Oct 2012
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re: Why the US going green will destroy us, and wont save earth....


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No, they don't. Green energy adds costs for no reason since green energy is stupid. They pay lip service to green because of marketing to morons who believe it will save the earth.


Zach, the get tax benefits for using and/or paying lip service to green. I know going green is stupid, but gov't indeed offers tax incentives for companies going green.

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No, they aren't. Leftists are the reason for Obamacare. Are the Fortune 500 companies a bunch of socialists? Really?


Some of their leaders certainly could be considered such, but the better term is corporatists.

Big companies love gov't intervention as long as it profits them. See bailouts as one example.

And if you think the Fortune 500's aren't happy about Obamacare then you just have no clue. My premiums were going up 10%+ per year, benefits reduced, and eventually went to health-savings account the year I left. Major corps don't want nothing to do with health benefits, None!






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