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OB welders - I want a welding machine

Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:30 pm
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:30 pm
I've never welded, but I want to do some small projects around the farm. There appears to be a bunch of different kinds of machines (arc, tig, mig, stick, etc). which kind of machine should I get for light to medium duty stuff? I need it to be easy to pick up and not too dangerous, because I want to teach my kids how to do it with minimal risk of death.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38385 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:45 pm to
Lincoln 180c dual. Can plug into any socket and it's easy to weld with. It's also on a rebate program right now until the end of june
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21701 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:47 pm to
I suggest you don't go too light or you'll regret it.

Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12885 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

but I want to do some small projects around the farm


I guess it depends what you got on the farm, or rather what you're kids are able to break on the farm.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:13 pm to
do you have access to 220v?
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:27 pm to
I've got the 140. It wouldn't generate enough heat/penetration when I was building my bumper out of drill pipe. That's the heaviest stuff I've tried to weld and it just wouldn't cut it. Everthing else though...piece of cake.

If I had a picture of it I would post the photo of the trebuchet that my 12 year old is building. It's a great unit for kids to learn to weld as well.

Go ahead and figure on buying a Victor gas axe as well. +/- $500 for a decent setup there.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24971 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:31 pm to
I have a miller 211 mvp auto set. It is a mig gun and can be hooked up to shield gas as well and is spool gun ready for AL welding just need the spool gun and argon shield gas. It can be plugged into 110V or 220V just by changing out the plug. Easy to use just turn the dial to the material thickness and go. So far so good with it although i haven't done any hard core projects with it. I plan on gettin the spool gun soon so i can make an aluminum pirogue.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:33 pm to
I'd suggest a cracker box rig. You can get nice ones for a little over $300

Stick is a little harder to learn than mig, but its not bad. Get some scrap metal and start burning rods
Posted by ThaTigerDon
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Member since Jun 2009
649 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:43 pm to
Ive got a hobart handler very easy to use i think mine is a 220. Now I do alot of custom exhaust work so you might want the one a notch below. Check out tractor supply they normally have good deals.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38385 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:43 pm to
Some stick rods are easier to weld with than others. You need to read up on them. The digits in each rod number represents something. (6010,6011,7018,7024 ect). Then there are the stainless rods, some are best for stainless to stainless and others stainless to carbon, they're pricey

First 2 digits represent tensile strength, third represents position (1 is all position) 4 represents position and or coating iirc.

One advantage to stick over mig and Tig is that you don't need gas. You can mig with self shield flux core but if you're teaching someone how to weld I would go with a good stick machine. A spider monkey can be taught to mig weld, you set the machine and pull the trigger.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:55 pm to
Little Lincoln mig welder. We have one and a big stick machine and use the Lincoln more
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