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he almost completed the fricking play with less than a yard of separation. he got two hands on the ball. and you think he needs five to catch it? and you're comparing someone covering tavon austin to fricking 250lb ilb james harrison? jesus christ.

Way to miss both points completely.

No, I'm saying if they both ran 5 yards, the distance between them based on their 40 times would be inches. 10 yards might be a foot at best.

You even stated that they had less than a yard of separation. So even if Austin had more time, he at best would have had a foot on Vaccaro. That's not far enough away to avoid a tackle even if the throw was perfect, and if the throw wasn't perfect it would either be wide or too close to Vaccaro given only a foot's difference.

On the Harrison point, I'm not comparing him to Vaccaro. I'm saying that here is a guy that went undrafted because of a slow 40 time, yet he still turned into a pro bowler.

You're using a 40 time, which is actually on par for most safeties, to claim that Vaccaro is to slow to play at the next level. I'm simply stating that 40 times are way overstated and football is about much more than straight line speed. THIS is why Harrison was still a pro bowler despite being "slow".

And now somehow you'll argue that I'm saying Vaccaro will be a pro bowler when nowhere in my post have I stated or implied that.

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Posted by el duderino III

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Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:31 am to bonethug0108

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I'm saying if they both ran 5 yards, the distance between them based on their 40 times would be inches.

well that's odd, since after austin cut (which was about 5 yards in) he was about 2 feet inside KV, hence, it hitting him in the hands and kv not even within reach to tip it. that seems like more than inches.

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You even stated that they had less than a yard of separation. So even if Austin had more time, he at best would have had a foot on Vaccaro.

??? there are 3 feet in a yard bud

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You're using a 40 time, which is actually on par for most safeties,

matt elam 4.53
eric reid 4.54
in this year alone. Also, interestingly enough there wasn't a single safety drafted in the 1st round in 2012 or 2011. and i'm too lazy to find 40 times farther back.

far more importantly, the argument that 40 times somehow dont matter is complete rationalization. If keke mingo would have ran a 4.68 instead of a 4.58 he might have dropped ten spots or more. Tavon austin runs a 4.34 and was went 8th overall. why exactly do you think that is? because at 5'8" 174 it sure as hell isn't his fricking size. it's not his ability to beat jams at the line. he doesnt have amazing hands and make acrobatic catches. his fricking vertical is 32 for christs sake. so dont sit here and tell me the "experts" know that 40 times dont matter when they pick another player even higher basically solely because his 40 time.

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