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blueboy
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Potter and Winchester are infinitely better than Burns and Blake


disagree, but those years were still very good
After Alda took over, it became very cornball and sappy, but I still liked it. Kids who watched the last episode were still crying about it the next day.






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Kafka
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In before the Mash was only good for the first 3 years crowd arrives


Sorry I'm late

I didn't care for Sherman Potter. Henry Blake was one of the greatest characters in sitcom history IMHO and Stevenson played him perfectly. Henry>>>>>>>>>>>>Potter

And before anybody asks, Trapper>>>>>>>>>BJ

But as for Frank vs Winchester: This is the one exception for me. By the time Frank left he had become an idiotic buffoon. Charles was a worthy opponent for Hawkeye and could match him quip for quip -- some of their exchanges are pretty funny.

The rest of the show was starting to suck bad: BJ instead of Trapper, Col Potter instead of Henry, Hot Lips becoming "Margaret" and treated like one of the boys instead of an enemy, Alda's relentless liberal preaching -- but IMHO Charles was actually an improvement over late period Frank.







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pussywillows
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he was in my favorite episode, "deal me out".





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Kafka
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As for the original subject of this thread, I never really cared for Sidney Freedman. Arbus played him rather drowsily and he was a harbinger of bad Alda revelation scenes to come. The only really good Arbus episode was the poker game with Dr. Pak and the old guy who Radar keeps running over.

And we have a thread on AA but not one mention that he was married to the infamous Diane Arbus?






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pussywillows
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The only really good Arbus episode was the poker game with Dr. Pak and the old guy who Radar keeps running over.


yeah, that's the one i was talking about...i loved that one.







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Kafka
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Couldn't remember the title... It's not my favorite episode, but it might be top 10





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Methuselah
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And before anybody asks, Trapper>>>>>>>>>BJ


Dang. Took awhile for some Trapper John appreciation.

In a way, Trapper was just a watered down version of Hawkeye. So in that light, I didn't mind getting BJ as a bit of a different character - married, more stable guy. But yeah, BJ was kind of a vanilla character.






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Kafka
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In a way, Trapper was just a watered down version of Hawkeye. So in that light, I didn't mind getting BJ as a bit of a different character - married, more stable guy. But yeah, BJ was kind of a vanilla character


BJ was incredibly boring, so they tried to enliven him by adding all that stupid practical joke stuff which made him annoying as well as dull. Mike Farrell being a bland screen presence didn't help.

The writers never really took advantage of the differences between Hawkeye and Trapper. What made Alda and Rogers work so well together were their different cadences -- Alda the fast-talking Grouchoesque New Yorker (even though his character is supposed to be from Maine), Rogers with his laidback Alabama drawl.






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Buck Magnum
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BJ was probably my least favorite character. Frank was my favorite but I didn't mind Winchester. Potter was ok. The early cast is the best. Rader was good when he was shady and didn't act ghey.





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Methuselah
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BJ was probably my least favorite character. Frank was my favorite but I didn't mind Winchester. Potter was ok. The early cast is the best. Rader was good when he was shady and didn't act ghey.

Yeah. They really watered down characters like Radar (before he left) and Klinger over the years. It just seemed to become more and more about Alda as time went on.






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chinese58
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watching those two buffoons play a Major and a LTC in the Army, much less doctors, was cringe worthy.


Vietnam was still going on when they started the show. I always thought Frank was the epitome of what anti-war people wanted the public to think Army officers would be like. You could even argue Col Blake could have been the anti-war people's choice to represent the old school leader who is in over his head.

Frank was a wretched weakling character that you wouldn't want any kid to have to take an order from.

I didn't get to watch MASH as a kid. My parents were Goldwater/Nixon conservatives that thought it was a commie pinko show. We were still watching Dragnet, Gunsmoke or Lassie after we got the KIA count from Walter Cronkite at 6:59.

MASH was as controversial back then as the shows people say have "gay agendas" are now.






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Buck Magnum
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My uncle hated M*A*S*H, thought it was anti military. I think it was what it was, a group of non coms trying to get out of a bad situation.





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