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re: LSU Athletes on Gay Teammates - Alfred Blue Says All The Wrong Things
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:24 pm to massiveattack
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:24 pm to massiveattack
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I kind of care that we have some pretty ignorant people on our football team
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So we get upset when Blue does not give the PC answer to gays, but how many of your ranters were the very ones bashing Tebow for his faith? I wonder if our team cares that we have some pretty ignorant fans.
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:24 pm to baobabtiger
Because this shouldn't be considered "right" no matter your beliefs on homosexuality
"So if you gay, we look at you as a sissy. You know? Like, how you going to say you can do what we do and you want a man?”
"So if you gay, we look at you as a sissy. You know? Like, how you going to say you can do what we do and you want a man?”
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:24 pm to Camp Randall
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but the other guys handled the bullshite question pretty well.
All of these athletes have media handlers, thats what the Sports Info department does. Maybe this is one of those times when the guy being interviewed slips through the cracks. Most of the time, these guy have interview request filtered out and they are sort taught what to say.
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:24 pm to baobabtiger
quote:Why is this so hard for you to figure out? No one is saying he has to be pro homosexuality, what people are saying is it is clearly wrong to treat a TEAMMATE differently because of it
So he's not entitled to his opinion? Why are all the "right things" on the pro homo side of the issue?
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:25 pm to Pilot Tiger
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1. the SID shouldn't have allowed the question
2. the athlete can decline to answer
worst case scenario is, "alfred blue wont give his opinion on having a gay teamate"
Exactly. Someone didn't do their job or Blue over stepped.
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:25 pm to lsuhunt555
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as someone who works for Sports Information you shouldnt let the interview take place
As someone who works in journalism, I disagree completely. This is what the media training is for. Questions shouldn't have to be filtered or screened. If the athletes are properly trained, they know they can tell the reporter they aren't comfortable with the question and don't want to comment. A respectable reporter isn't going to pry something like this out of someone
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:25 pm to joeytiger
quote:huh?
Even if I do ask them, how can they know with absolute certainty that they were born that way?
at the part when they tell you that they were gay as far back as they remembered and didn't know what it was called.
quote:again, huh?
Would it not be their "opinion"?
quote:no evidence other then they themselves admitting that they haven't chosen their orientation?
If this is true, then your gay friends are ignorant for their statements with "no evidence."
here is a simple experiment for you.
right this second, choose to be gay. Choose to be attracted to men. Just concentrate and think about it.
If you succeed, then maybe you can build your argument that you believe it's a choice.
deal?
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:28 pm to NorthLaTigerFan
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So we get upset when Blue does not give the PC answer to gays, but how many of your ranters were the very ones bashing Tebow for his faith? I wonder if our team cares that we have some pretty ignorant fans.
It took 17 pages but finally someone trotted out Christianity
Very nice.Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:30 pm to LSU Red24
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As someone who works in journalism
Well of course you would disagree, you want a story that has interest. As an SID your job is to keep shite like this from happening.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:33 pm to lsuhunt555
I think the problem doesn't fall with the question actually being asked, but with his answer. Don't know if that falls on poor training, unpreparedness or just stupidity, but I don't think the question should be prevented
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:34 pm to Pilot Tiger
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his comments are ignorant, regardless of how many other people are also ignorant. That does not make it ok.
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:35 pm to lsupride87
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it is clearly wrong to treat a TEAMMATE differently because of it
If a flaming gay 6'4" 235 lb linebacker that ran a 4.7 was my teammate I would look at and treat him differently than a straight teammate when showering, changing in the locker room, performing tackling drills, and or needing a spotter on the squat rack.
To me it is bigoted to not accept the feelings and POV of the people who don't want to be around homos.
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:35 pm to LSU Red24
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I don't think the question should be prevented
To certain players it absolutely should be prevented. Lets face it, some guys are better at this than others. Had you asked Mingo or Reid that question, no problem. Blue doesn't do media well, he just doesn't. That's part of why I take offense with the writer. He knew who he was asking and he knew EXACTLY what kind of response he would get.
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:40 pm to lsuhunt555
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He knew who he was asking and he knew EXACTLY what kind of response he would get.
I guess this is where we just agree to disagree. He chose a senior running back who has been through hardships himself. Not that wild. Also, he didn't just ask Blue. He asked a wide variety of players to try and capture the general reaction of the team as a whole. Blue's quote ran for obvious reasons, but I don't think it was the writer's intention to dig for strong anti-gay responses
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:43 pm to baobabtiger
quote:sig quote material
To me it is bigoted to not accept the feelings and POV of the people who don't want to be around homos.
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:43 pm to Pilot Tiger
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here is a simple experiment for you.
right this second, choose to be gay. Choose to be attracted to men. Just concentrate and think about it. If you succeed, then maybe you can build your argument that you believe it's a choice. deal?
I just tried, but to no avail. That still doesn't prove that it is not a choice. I think at a young age, you make that choice to like girls or boys and you grow with that choice. Just because I choose not to be gay at 30, doesn't mean I couldn't have been gay, had I chosen that route at 5 or 6 years old. Can you prove that it is not a choice, outside of what your gay friends have told you? My cousin was straight, got married and had 3 kids and then 2 years after her 3rd child was born, became a lesbian. Does that satisfy your need for "evidence" that it is a choice?
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:44 pm to baobabtiger
quote:everyone has a right to their own opinion, but when the greater LSU community rallies to support you in a time of need (when his family's house caught fire and LSU fans contributed $80K to the Blue family in private donations), he should probably have kept his homophobic opinions to himself out of respect for any gay people who sought to support he and his family through difficult times with unqualified generosity.
So he's not entitled to his opinion? Why are all the "right things" on the pro homo side of the issue?
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:45 pm to joeytiger
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Just because I choose not to be gay at 30, doesn't mean I couldn't have been gay, had I chosen that route at 5 or 6 years old. Can you prove that it is not a choice, outside of what your gay friends have told you
So you think 5-6 year olds are making the cognizant choice to be gay?
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:46 pm to joeytiger
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Just because I choose not to be gay at 30, doesn't mean I couldn't have been gay, had I chosen that route at 5 or 6 years old.
quote:so according to you, you can't choose to be gay at 30, but your cousin can?
My cousin was straight, got married and had 3 kids and then 2 years after her 3rd child was born, became a lesbian
so maybe you can't choose for the same reason she can choose. And that's because it's not a "choice"?
quote:I have at least 5 really good gay friends, 2 that I consider best friends. Every single one has told me that they didn't choose to be gay and that they knew early on in life, that something was "off" as in they felt differently toward boys.
Can you prove that it is not a choice, outside of what your gay friends have told you?
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/19/13 at 12:47 pm to LSU Red24
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He chose a senior running back who has been through hardships himself. Not that wild
Not trying to be a dick to AB, but have you EVER heard him speak?
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