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Best starting pitching rotation ever.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:22 pm
Was the braves staff that included Maddox, Glavin, and Smoltz the best or one of the best starting rotations of all time? You essentially had 3 all star caliber aces on one staff.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 3:23 pm
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:23 pm to td01241
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You essentially had 3 hall of fame caliber aces on one staff.
FIFY
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:24 pm to td01241
1971 Orioles
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:24 pm to td01241
quote:WHo?
Maddox, Glavin
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:25 pm to tduecen
60's Dodgers
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Drysdale, Sutton and Koufax
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Drysdale, Sutton and Koufax
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:27 pm to td01241
1971 orioles. They had four 20 game winners that year.
Palmer - 20-10 2.71 era
McNally - 21-5 2.89 era
Cuellar - 20-9 3.08 era
Dobson - 20-8 2.90 era
Palmer - 20-10 2.71 era
McNally - 21-5 2.89 era
Cuellar - 20-9 3.08 era
Dobson - 20-8 2.90 era
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:28 pm to Rouge
quote:
1971 Orioles
hard to argue with 4 20-game winners
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:28 pm to td01241
My favorite baseball stat. Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters in his career. Just 310 of them saw a 3-0 count. And 156 of those were intentional walks ...
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:29 pm to td01241
I believe the best pitiching rotation is the Braves from the late 90s, except when Walter Johnson would throw 3 of his team's 4 starts.
Other of note-
'54 Indians Early Wynn, Bob Feller, & Bob Lemon (3 HOFs)
'66 Dodgers- Koufax, Drysdale, Sutton, & Osteen (3 HOF)
Other of note-
'54 Indians Early Wynn, Bob Feller, & Bob Lemon (3 HOFs)
'66 Dodgers- Koufax, Drysdale, Sutton, & Osteen (3 HOF)
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:30 pm to Zamoro10
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60's Dodgers
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Drysdale, Sutton and Koufax
Sutton and Koufax pitched together for like one year and Sutton was only a rookie when he pitched with Koufax.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:31 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
CY Young- 341.7 Innings Pitched 28-9 2.08 ERA
Bill Dinneen- 299 Inn 21-13 2.26
Tom Hughes- 244.7 Inn 20-7 2.57
Norwood Gibson- 183.3 Inn 13-9 3.19
George Winter- 178.3 9-8 3.08
Bill Dinneen- 299 Inn 21-13 2.26
Tom Hughes- 244.7 Inn 20-7 2.57
Norwood Gibson- 183.3 Inn 13-9 3.19
George Winter- 178.3 9-8 3.08
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:35 pm to threeputt
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Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters in his career. Just 310 of them saw a 3-0 count. And 156 of those were intentional walks ...
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:35 pm to td01241
quote:
Glavin
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:36 pm to tduecen
Al spalding of the redstockings had a pretty impressive run from 71-75: 204-53 2.21 era
1871-1875
1871-1875
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:39 pm to Drewbie
2005 white sox
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:40 pm to td01241
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The Greatest Pitching Rotation of All Time — and It’s Not Close
By ADAM STERNBERGH
This is catnip just in time for Major League Baseball’s Opening Day: A great story by Pat Jordan on the Phillies four pitching aces. (The Phearsome Phoursome? Has this been copyrighted yet? If not, I call dibs. Oh, wait.) As an added bonus: Nate Silver uses the magic of statistics to definitively answer the question: What is the greatest four-man rotation of all time?
The answer isn’t all that surprising — but the margin of victory definitely is. The 1997 Braves rotation of Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz and, er, Denny Neagle (hey, he won 20 games that year and was surprisingly really good) has a collective Value Over Replacement Player (or VORP) of 649.4. The next highest-scoring foursome, the 1956 Indians (Early Wynn, Herb Score, Bob Lemon, Mike Garcia) has a score of 562.8. In fact, the rotations that ranked 2nd through 10th all have scores clustered loosely around 500, ranging from 494.7 (the 1970 Cubs) to the Indians.
Which is to say, the difference in VORP between the 10th best rotation and the 2nd best (68.1 points) is less than the difference between No. 2 and No. 1 (86.6 points). (Also interesting: The storied 1971 Orioles rotation of Jim Palmer, Mike Cuellar, Pat Dobson and Dave McNally — 20-game winners all — doesn’t even make the Top 10.)
So next time you’re on your barstool (maybe tonight!) and someone starts an argument about the best rotation of all time, whip out this handy chart and let him know it’s not much of an argument at all. Unless, of course, each of the Phillies Phoursome equals his career-best season this year — in which case, Silver figures, they will unseat the ’97 Braves as No. 1.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:41 pm to SPEEDY
Mets with
Cone
Gooden
Darling
Ojeda
Fernandez
with Myers, McDowell and LEach in pen
along with Aguilera
A's that year with Stewart, Welch, etc with Eck in the pen
Cone
Gooden
Darling
Ojeda
Fernandez
with Myers, McDowell and LEach in pen
along with Aguilera
A's that year with Stewart, Welch, etc with Eck in the pen
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:42 pm to td01241
The Astros 05 staff could have made a case for being near the top of things.
Oswalt 20-12 2.94 241.2 IP
Pettite 17-9 2.39 222.1 IP
Clemens 13-8 1.87 211.1 IP
But the back end of that rotation was Backe (4.76) and Wandy (5.53)
Oswalt 20-12 2.94 241.2 IP
Pettite 17-9 2.39 222.1 IP
Clemens 13-8 1.87 211.1 IP
But the back end of that rotation was Backe (4.76) and Wandy (5.53)
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:42 pm to SPEEDY
Having guys like Neagle, Avery or Millwood to round out the rotation was really what put it over the top. Their fourth starter was an All-Star.
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