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Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:43 pm to
I have 100 ranked games and im in plat. I doubt you being unlucky has anything to do with it.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57942 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:03 pm to
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That and I don't play much, maybe 50 games this year.
This is the only reason you're in bronze. It took me 22 games to go from Bronze 3 to Silver 5. If you're good enough, you will get out. If you aren't, you won't. I was a firm believer in elo hell until this season. I thought bronze was impossible to get out of once you were placed there. After getting placed in silver last season and playing a whole season there, then turning around and getting placed bronze 3 somehow this season, bronze is a cakewalk for those who aren't actually bronze.

In your case, you don't put enough time into the game to develop your play past a bronze level. You also jumped straight into ranked as soon as you hit 30. Both of those are surefire ways to end up in bronze and stay there a while.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

So many people play the game that the people they ban/suspend arent even noticed. I do think they should add the Dota2 thing in where it notifies you if somebody you reported is punished though.

I really want to see them do this. The other thing I want is a way to play without your friends knowing you are on.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:56 pm to
I've come to learn this about League:

Whatever rank you are, is exactly where you belong. I agree that sometimes you just get unlucky and get shitty teammates and/or trolls. However, in the long run it all averages out.

If you're Plat level, then you'll be plat. If you've played 50 games and are still in Bronze, then you belong in Bronze.

Trolls exists, afker's exist, feeders, exist, etc...but over time, you will get more legit games than troll games. If you are good enough then you will win those legit games and move up. Otherwise, you will stay right where you are....where you belong.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7309 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:19 pm to
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Whatever rank you are, is exactly where you belong

Nah. Even people who aren't mechanically skilled eventually get better if they don't form bad habits. I was silver for most of last year and then 2 months into the new season and I'm plat. I'm still fixing stupid shite I do.

I don't think there are many people who are incapable of getting to gold.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 8:20 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:08 pm to
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I'm still fixing stupid shite I do.


Clearly what you're doing isn't THAT stupid if you're beating Gold and Plat players.

If you're stuck in Bronze for an entire season, then you aren't unlucky, you just need to learn the game better.

The insinuation by people who are "stuck" is that they are really good players, but get unlucky 80% of games because of trolls and bad players, which simply isn't true.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:26 pm to
It really isn't that hard. Heck, I've been hard core playing ranked for 2 weeks now ever since fixing my internet. Was placed into Bronze II, and just moved up to Bronze 1 yesterday.

Granted, this is the most I've played in almost a year and I still suck at doing stupid shite, but to me getting through Bronze is not THAT bad.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57942 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 4:40 am to
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Whatever rank you are, is exactly where you belong.
I agree with this if you are a certain rank for an extended period of time. Obviously when I was placed in Bronze 3, I didn't belong there. I went something stupid like 19-3 until I hit Silver. It's when you get the "my team just won't let me win anymore" complaints where you start to figure they're where they belong.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:23 am to
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I agree with this if you are a certain rank for an extended period of time. Obviously when I was placed in Bronze 3, I didn't belong there. I went something stupid like 19-3 until I hit Silver. It's when you get the "my team just won't let me win anymore" complaints where you start to figure they're where they belong.


That was basically my assertion. Where you're initially placed at the beginning of a season is probably the only time you may be where you don't belong.

Otherwise, if you've been playing ranked for weeks and months and you're still where you were when you started... that's on you.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:22 am to
Question I have for anyone in here experienced in ranked:

How do you farm consistently as a jungler? I've had my most wins as jungling, but at the end of games my cs is often between 100-120, and to me that feels low.

The only times I've ever had high CS in jungle are with Yi.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:04 am to
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How do you farm consistently as a jungler?


I very rarely, if ever, play jungle, but from what I've seen other players do:

1) Pay attention to your minimap and if you have a reasonable chance to gank and get a kill, summoner spell or force an early back for the enemy in a lane for your teammates, then do it. Otherwise, continue to farm.

2) Cover lanes when a teammate dies or backs and take any CS that they may lose to tower or your own minions.

3) If you see their jungler ganking top, invade their bot side jungle. Gives you extra farm and puts them behind.

Again, I never jungle, so I could be wrong with my assertions above. But this is just what I observe from an outside perspective.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:13 am to
Also, I've noticed in Bronze that most players who pick "OP" champs, like Jax for example (I don't really consider him THAT OP), don't know how to play them worth a shite.

Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11877 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:27 am to
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How do you farm consistently as a jungler?
If you are not adding vision to the map or preparing to gank a lane.... you need to be farming. Always be doing something.
quote:

I've had my most wins as jungling, but at the end of games my cs is often between 100-120, and to me that feels low.
Laners will typically get around 70 cs/ 10 min. As a jungler, you are usually around half of that.... unless you tax the lanes or split push.
There are some carry and feral flare junglers that need more CS than that, but your job is to feed your laners and put the opponents behind.

I still see very little vision on the map in Silver. So... I've started using the Dig approach and getting an early sight stone to give my team a chance to get picks.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57942 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:43 pm to
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How do you farm consistently as a jungler? I've had my most wins as jungling, but at the end of games my cs is often between 100-120, and to me that feels low.
That's pretty normal. Every time I watch Oddone stream he ends up anywhere from 100-160 cs. Unless you're playing someone like Yi and are just constantly taxing your lanes or are not ganking at all, cs will never be all that high.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:48 pm to
Any thoughts on the 4.11 patch?

4.11
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
925 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:34 pm to
Braun nerf
Kayle nerf
Skarner nerf
Jax nerf

...

Looks good to me
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:26 pm to
Maybe I can actually pick Jax now without every fricking Silver/Bronze game having him banned
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11877 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:18 am to
Every game tonight... and I mean every single one... I'm the lowest ranked person on either team.
Several DC's in game ... one even during a gank.

I'm just getting really bad luck.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:39 am to
Just qualified for a series in Bronze I to decide if I get to Silver V
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11877 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:54 am to
Seriously... last game all gold 5's and silver 2's vs silver 4/5's. wtf.
Mid feeds, top feeds, bot holds ok, but it's too late.

I ganked the lanes constantly.... like... constantly. Nothing I can do from the jungle.
Gonna have to grind through adc or mid.

I get to within one game of promotion series and then fall all the way back down. This blows.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 12:59 am
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