re: Official League of Legends Thread

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No escape equals a dead ADC.

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Not entirely, but Ashe suffers from more than just a lack of an escape.

Dcrews needs to remember that in URF, mana is free, CDs are low, and AS is high.
It is a different game from regular.

Ashe is great in URF.... 12 second ults, W every 2-3 seconds, and teleport to get to easy farm.
I can't tell you how many awesome Ult arrows would turn team fights... or how many times I just brute forced down towers.
(One of my guilty pleasures is finishing off a tower before the enemy teleport is completed. I imagine them getting super pissed that they have to walk to lane. )

I'd love to see Ashe get back as a viable ADC, but her utility isn't enough to overcome her poor qualities versus other ADCs.
Case in point: I watched WildTurutle play "only Ashe" in SoloQ, but the whole time he complained about her flaws... and only played like 3-4 before he was like... screw this.

I wasn't indicting your memory or knowledge.
I was simply pointing out that the unique urf environment boosts champions that aren't equally strong in regular games.

Ashe's utility is fun and a change of pace versus traditional adcs.
I find her Similar to sivir.
But the lack of spell shield and movement buff require you to have to kite and get items built.

I can see her coming back if the meta switches again to reward utility.

Seems like we had this discussion before in this thread..

She can be but she still has no escape late game either

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She can be but she still has no escape late game either

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Agreed. At least she has a stun (her ultimate) and her hawkshot (allows for on the fly map information so she can position her self properly).

Her slow effects late game are extremely underrated as well. Her AA and her W not only hurt, but the slow that goes along with it is pretty hefty.

Caught out of position 1v1 or 1v2, any adc is going to have issues.

You guys play graves at all anymore?

If a khazix jumps on you her ultimate isnt gonna save you. And if it does you just wasted your initiation to get away. Graves is becoming Fotm among the challenger Adcs

Maybe Trist can get away too... Jump and Flash.
Same with Lucian, Ez, Cait.

Vayne could condemn and use the invisibility of the ult.

So, I don't see how Ashe is significantly disadvantaged vs the other ADCs except for maybe Lucian that can deal ult damage to self-peel.

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Maybe Trist can get away too... Jump and Flash.
Same with Lucian, Ez, Cait.

Vayne could condemn and use the invisibility of the ult.

So, I don't see how Ashe is significantly disadvantaged vs the other ADCs except for maybe Lucian that can deal ult damage to self-peel.

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I agree with you, paired with flash, a lot, if not all of the adc's have some form of escape or disengage.

That is part of the reason I like Trist so much. With flash, her jump and her ult, it's not likely you should get caught out often.

Lucian and graves have a small dash, but I wouldn't equate it things like trist's jump or caitlyn's net.

Vayne's disengage is strong as well.

Early game with Ashe though, her slow isn't potent, leaving her vulnerable. Later game though, that slow is extremely annoying and comes quickly as her attack speed is good.

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Ashe is terrible. Almost insta dodge worthy.

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Your face is terrible.

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What adc is going to likely live through khazix jumping on them. Maybe, Ez because he essentially has a built in flash? Doesn't khazix have 2-3 jumps?

Flash away, use your arrow and kite. Otherwise you are insanely out of position and will die anyway.

I see Sivir players blow her ult to escape all the time. You'd rather not have to, but it's nice to have.

Also, what "escapes" does Jinx have?

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Khazix's jump resets on kills or assists. Even so, if you flash away, khazix's evolved Q has a pretty good range and will really chunk an ADC.

Jinx's passive is a nice speed boost on kills/assists. You wont catch a "get excited" jinx.

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