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Posted on 3/29/13 at 10:33 am
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 10:33 am
First time on Money Board, I searched but did not find the exact scenario. I have around 100K in a 401K and I would like to invest that money in land. Is there any way to pull it out of the 401K without being taxed? I would immediately put the money back into the land deal. TIA
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24815 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 10:36 am to
Basically no ....


You usually can take a loan from the 401k but you can't just yank it out.
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 10:53 am to
Yeah, just like the poster above put, you will be taxed on the money you take out.

Basically, you paid no taxes on that income primarily, so the IRS would definitely not allow you to invest tax-free money
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:02 am to
I knew the answer already I was hoping there was a way.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:12 am to
As someone pointed out, you can borrow against your own IRA. The interest that you pay you will pay to yourself.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:30 am to
quote:

As someone pointed out, you can borrow against your own IRA. The interest that you pay you will pay to yourself.


While that is true, you are borrowing untaxed money and then pay back post-tax money. And then you get to paytax again when you retire. Still probably not a good idea.
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4213 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:36 pm to
Check with whoever holds your 401k, you may be able to roll it over to an IRA and do it from there, not sure though.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:45 pm to
Yes, create a self directed IRA. Roll money from 401(k) to IRA. Have IRA invest in land.
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Yes, create a self directed IRA. Roll money from 401(k) to IRA. Have IRA invest in land.


Now this I can check into.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 3:47 pm to
LINK This article discusses how you can use an IRA to make alternative investments. You can find more with Google typing IRA and real estate.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:08 pm to
Agree with Poodle. I have read that with a self-directed IRA, you can buy silver or gold. Land would be similar.
Posted by Siderophore
Member since Nov 2010
3338 posts
Posted on 3/30/13 at 2:10 pm to
There are considerations for off brand investments like land.

I think there are requirements for there to be an intermediate.

Like: You can't use the money to buy land yourself.

But you can use the money to give to someone else to buy the land and sell with a gain.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26746 posts
Posted on 3/30/13 at 3:27 pm to
Yep. With silver and gold, for example, you have to keep it at a bank or some other financial institution. You can't legally just buy it off the internet and store it in your house for IRA purposes.
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