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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 9/12/15 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 9/12/15 at 1:45 pm to
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And we all know Corsair doesn't make anything at all, but again you'd be hard pressed to find a bad Corsair product.


I'm actually considering getting a "no kidding" Seasonic power supply this time, but I'm trying to justify the "Why?" I've been happy with all my Corsair-branded products (even the ones made by Seasonic ), and as you say, Corsair must be doing something right by being selective as to what they apply their name.

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the RAM market is little cloudier to me.


It's always been kind of a wild west over there - Taiwanese-made used to be the big deal - unless I'm mistaken, Crucial/Micron built their reputation on being selective about which factory and even production line to get their dimms - and I think, at the end of the day, it was that quality control that gained them their market among some OEMs and hobbyists back in the heady, early days of "build your own".

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As you know, it's very simple to monitor RAM usage and decide whether you need to order more, but nobody seems to do it.


Sure - and in my case, the usual suspects are:

1. Memory leaks (and more ram just kicks that problem down the road a few minutes/hours/days) - you eventually get a process failure or glitch that has to be resolved, no matter how much RAM you carry

2. The Sims 3 or Skyrim, minimized with browser windows and openoffice documents - at some point, I have an almost 6 year old AMD processor and 4gb of RAM - something is not going to play well something else.

3. Streaming media with other browser tabs/sessions open (and, like I said, I often have Firefox with many tabs open alongside IE - as the .mil and .gov sites just work better through IE).

So - when I finally pull the trigger, and if I ultimately decide on 16gb - it will be like "RAM insurance" to make sure I don't have to worry about it for situations 2 and 3 above.

I have much more significant issues with GPU and processor bottlenecks (and heck, even spinning drives) than I do with my 4gb, so 8 would probably not be short for the build.

At least I've talked myself down from 32gb or more, right? Progress - we should take it at this point.
This post was edited on 9/12/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 9/12/15 at 2:43 pm to
I think 16GB is a good amount for a power user or a great starting point for professionals (video editing and 3d modeling). In your case, it's justifiable. I don't argue too much against 16GB in builds over $1k anyway. It's those "I can't spend a dime over $700" scenarios when you can really hinder optimal performance by putting an extra $40-50 (and not too long ago, $70+) into something you don't even know if you'll use.

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I'm actually considering getting a "no kidding" Seasonic power supply this time, but I'm trying to justify the "Why?" I've been happy with all my Corsair-branded products (even the ones made by Seasonic )


I love Seasonic, but they're certainly not the only manufacturer churning out good units. FSP, Super Flower, Delta, and Enermax are also great. Super Flower is up there with Seasonic. You can even get something decent from conglomo-PSU makers like Channel Well, which supplies PSUs that range from fire hazard to some that rival Seasonic, and everything in between. While Corsair doesn't make anything, they do have a hand in design which I'm sure contributes to favorable quality.

A couple of years ago I bought a Seasonic X1250 gold. Probably the most I've ever spent on a power supply. A month later, the fan died, so the PSU would shut off after about an hour of gaming. The fan, of course, being the one thing Seasonic didn't make. Good customer service, though. I sent them the bare unit (no cables), and they sent me a new in box unit (so I have an extra set of cables) within a few days. They do not cross-ship, though, which is annoying.

If the Seasonics are overpriced to you (and they have been lately, no good promos or rebates), you'll get equal quality from EVGA Supernova G2/P2/B2 units, Rosewill Capstones or even some Hive units, and pretty much all of XFX's PSUs. I call out those models specifically because they tend to be considerably cheaper than some of the more popular high-end models (Seasonic X-series, Corsair AX).

EDIT: So when are you going to buy your parts already?!
This post was edited on 9/12/15 at 2:44 pm
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