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Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by Raz
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:40 pm to
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ILikeLSUToo
Thanks yo! You are the man.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:28 am to
I'm assuming you have the RAM because you didn't list it.
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 9:27 am to
Are the days of only needing 8 gigs of RAM over? Unless my G15 monitor is off, COD AW routinely pushes my 16 gigs past 50%.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 10:02 am to
Not necessarily. Windows allocates more RAM than it needs for background processes. If you only had 8GB, Windows would use less system memory and/or likely allocate more pagefile space for background processes (and you wouldn't notice a difference because they're not actively used programs).
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 10:03 am
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:41 am to
i have 12 gigs and cod pushes me to 58%
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:44 am to
I have 16 and I hit over 60% at times
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:07 pm to
Remove 8 and see what it does. I bet it scales down accordingly. You should actually look at Windows Task Manager and see how much the game itself is using as well. I never looked when I was playing the campaign.
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:49 pm to
a little over 6 gigs while resting at the esc screen.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:15 pm to
How long does it usually take the overseas monitors to get here, it says it's shipped but delivery any time between now and January?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:54 pm to
The ones on eBay ship DHL and arrive within two business days. Not sure what Newegg does.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:57 pm to
It's from Amazon.

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HOLY shite! I can't get stuff ordered here that fast sometimes let alone from Korea.

Scheduled For Early Delivery On:
Tuesday, 11/18/2014, By End of Day
Originally Scheduled For Delivery On:
Wednesday, 11/19/2014, By End of Day
Last Location:
Departed - Incheon, Korea, Republic of, Monday, 11/17/2014
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 2:06 pm
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:31 pm to
Of course I go to order the cooler and now it's out of stock.
Posted by Raz
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:58 pm to
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$1424:

PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.67 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($327.85 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Perfect Pixel QNIX QX2710 LED Evolution ll [Glossy] 27" 2560x1440 PLS PC Monitor ($329.99)
Total: $1424.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-14 21:45 EST-0500


So I didn't pull the trigger right away (real life happens) and now the prices have moved a bit. Full build from above is now $1443. What do you think about swapping out the SSD/Mobo/PSU to those listed below?

PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($81.90 @ Newegg)
Storage: Transcend SSD340 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.67 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($327.85 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Perfect Pixel QNIX QX2710 LED Evolution ll [Glossy] 27" 2560x1440 PLS PC Monitor ($329.99)
Total: $1414.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-17 18:51 EST-0500

Mobo: Gigabyte board is similar for $109 vs $118. The main difference I saw was 4 x 6 Gb/s SATA vs 6 on the MSI. Do I need 6?

SSD: The Transcend ssd is $90 vs $110 for the Crucial, and only slightly less read/write 4kb IOPS: 68,000 vs 70,000. Only 2 reviews on the Transcend ssd, though.. would that make you hesitate on this brand?

PSU: Same price, same brand, same watts, but I noticed the 80+ Gold Capstone is the same price as the 80+ Bronze Hive. Any issues here?

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:43 pm to
I'll reconfigure the minute you are ready to pull the trigger. Prices change all the time, sometimes within hours.

EDIT: I see the deal on the RAM expired, so that needs to change first and foremost.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Raz
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:52 pm to
My body is ready...and my wallet

Just thinking about which case I want more between the H440 and the R4.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 6:59 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:05 pm to
Ok, looking closely at your new build, it looks fine with your alternate choices. The PSU you selected is better than the Hive. I just didn't see that deal when I did your build. I would go with this memory instead: LINK . Cheaper and slightly faster.

As for the SSD, couldn't say whether the Crucial is worth the extra $20. I have zero experience with Transcend. I tend to stick with SSDs from companies that make their own NAND or have very close relationships with a particular factory (Samsung, Toshiba/Sandisk, Crucial, etc), but that doesn't mean whatever is in the Transcend is any worse. I just don't know what's in it, nor do I know anything about the JMicron controller it uses.
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:36 pm to
What about this Sandisk for $95 ($15 cheaper than the crucial) ?

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:44 pm to
I'd get the Transcend before I'd get the Sandisk. Uses a very old controller. Sandforce controllers in general are not my favorite.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:52 pm to
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Of course I go to order the cooler and now it's out of stock.


After watching and researching I really want this cooler, I am afraid that if/when they get it in stock again it will be much more. frick ME for not ordering it two days ago!!!
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:16 pm to
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After watching and researching I really want this cooler


Oh, so my recommendation alone wasn't good enough

It's a high-demand cooler. You can get it on ebay right now, if you can somehow figure out how to pay for stuff on eBay.

Otherwise, out of stock everywhere, but here are a couple more places to keep checking for stock:

FrozenCPU (Has e-mail notification option)
Amazon

EDIT: Nevermind, the one person selling it on ebay is charging like $46 for shipping...

The H220-X is also a good cooler.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 9:17 pm
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