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Banks getting desperate for returns on cash?

Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:58 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:58 pm
So my bank just sent me a request to take out +$20k in unsecured debt for 1.9% rate for one year. I'd like to take it but I honestly have no need.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:28 pm to
wow, what bank?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28262 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:34 pm to
USAA
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40892 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:10 pm to
I got that email too.

With 3% fee for writing a check not to exceed $75.

So let me get this straight and y'all help me out.

Say I got a 5k student loan at 7%. I should write a check for say 1k, pay $30 bucks for the transfer fee. And then pay off that 1k at 1.9% instead of 7% right?
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 4:14 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28262 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

I got that email too.


Yeah but assume USAA isn't the only one trying to get people to borrow more money. Just seems like an absurdly low offer.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:14 pm to
About a month ago, my bank called me from their home office to feel me out about my plans to borrow. Very professional conversation, discreetly executed. Basically wanted to know if I was planning any additions or renovations to my house or if I would be interested in their credit card.

Told her I was probably going to buy a car this year.

My thoughts after the call was that the .gov wants them to lend out more of those reserves and they are having problems finding suitable borrowers.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40892 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:14 pm to
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Yeah but assume USAA isn't the only one trying to get people to borrow more money. Just seems like an absurdly low offer.


Am I allowed to do what I added to my post above? I might call.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 4:15 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28262 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:18 pm to
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Am I allowed to do what I added to my post above?


of course. It's actually in the email that they want you to payoff other lines of credit with it. But you can also write yourself a check for whatever amount of credit you have available.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40892 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

of course. It's actually in the email that they want you to payoff other lines of credit with it. But you can also write yourself a check for whatever amount of credit you have available.


Ya, I don't want the full amount as I don't want to be stuck with 9.9. But converting 1,000 to 1.9 at $30 instead of 7/8% is a steal.

I hope USAA keeps this up. I might pay my student loans off in this lifetime.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28262 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:28 pm to
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I don't want the full amount as I don't want to be stuck with 9.9. But converting 1,000 to 1.9 at $30 instead of 7/8% is a steal


It's only going to save you about $20 if you are just converting $1000. If you convert the whole thing and pay it off, you'll save a few hundred.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:51 pm to
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It's only going to save you about $20 if you are just converting $1000. If you convert the whole thing and pay it off, you'll save a few hundred.
You'll save 5% per annum. Regardless of amount, that's a good deal and a nice spread.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135040 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:55 pm to
Rachal calls me every week offering to lower my interest rates.....
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40892 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:56 pm to
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You'll save 5% per annum. Regardless of amount, that's a good deal and a nice spread.


Ya, I think I need to take out more though to make it work. Think if I converted all of it, the savings would be about $30 per month or $360 (something like that). Of course I'd be accelerating repayment and saving the 8% over the next 5 years as well. I suck at math off my head though so I could be way off.

If I do that with my big fed loans each year chunk by chunk as long as USAA sends me these checks, I'd have a good thing going.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Say I got a 5k student loan at 7%. I should write a check for say 1k, pay $30 bucks for the transfer fee. And then pay off that 1k at 1.9% instead of 7% right?


Term of the loan would alter this estimation, obviously.

But to make it easy let's say you plan to pay off the loan in 24 months.

$5,000 @ 7% for 24 months = $5,751.29 Roughly $750 you'll pay in interest.

$5,000 + 3% Transfer fee @ 1.9% for 24 Months= $5,271.56 Roughly $270 in fee and interest

So transferring the entire loan would save about $480 over 2 years
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135040 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Say I got a 5k student loan at 7%. I should write a check for say 1k, pay $30 bucks for the transfer fee. And then pay off that 1k at 1.9% instead of 7% right?

Isn't there a favorable tax treatment, as in a deduction for the interest, if you're repaying a direct student loan? Will the re-scheduled debt be eligible for that deduction?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40892 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Isn't there a favorable tax treatment, as in a deduction for the interest, if you're repaying a direct student loan? Will the re-scheduled debt be eligible for that deduction?



I doubt I'd get the same treatment, which probably kills the savings. However, that stops at 2,500 of qualified interest a year, and sadly my fed loans are huge so it still may work. So anything over that amount in interest gets no favorable treatment.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 5:27 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28262 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:25 pm to
The transfer fee is capped at 75$
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Rachal calls me every week offering to lower my interest rates.....


I've told Rachal calling from about a thousand different phone numbers to take my name off their list. The last call, I punched one and then placed the phone on the speakers and blasted "her" with "Down the Field".
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135040 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
81313 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 7:25 pm to
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I've told Rachal calling from about a thousand different phone numbers to take my name off their list. The last call, I punched one and then placed the phone on the speakers and blasted "her" with "Down the Field".


I always faked an Indian accent and feigned interest. After keeping them on the phone for several minutes, I realized I didn't have my wallet with me so I couldn't give them my credick card number.
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