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Buying stock in a company you anticipate will be selling a portion of its assets

Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:07 am
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:07 am
Would it be wise to load up on stock in a company that will be selling off its assets to another company. Shareholders will be paid in stock from the other company.

Steps
1. Buy existing company stock
2. Wait for buyout of assets
3. Paid in stock shares - now own stock in both companies
4. ?????????
5. Profit
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:17 am to
While your at it you may as well play the winning lottery numbers, right?

Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 11:18 am to
Worked for me when I bought AAMRQ.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 12:17 pm to
Spill the beans!
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:01 pm to
Has this buyout already been announced, or are you merely guessing? You can also make a merger arbitrage trade by shorting the acquiring company and buying the target.

If this hasn't been announced, but you know for a fact that it's happening then you would be breaking the law.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:07 pm to
Its been announced. Whether it will come to fruition is up in the air. Pretty sure I'm not breaking any insider laws or anything
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:22 pm to
If it's been announced, you're completely within your rights to buy this stock. However since it's already been announced, you've already missed out on a lot of potential upside on the target's end. If the deal ends up not going through, then you're going to lose money especially since you're looking at buying at an overvalued price.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:30 pm to
Yea if the deal falls through I don't think the stock will plummet its still a fortune 500 (top 250). Only thing that I guess would hurt is if the stock takes a hit when the deal does go through. As an employee I won't be able to own both stocks so I'll be selling the acquired company stock within 6 months of the transaction. My whole end game is basically to acquire "free" stock in the new company
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:46 pm to
The takeover price should already be factored into the market price for the target. If the deal falls through, the target's price should still fall as there should have been a price run up due to the rumor/announcement that it was indeed a takeover target. I just feel (though I'm not expert in these matters) that you're a bit late in getting in on this transaction.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Paid in stock shares - now own stock in both companies
That's not how it works. There is only one surviving company with one stock surviving.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41910 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 1:58 pm to
Not sure what you mean both companies will still be traded. The seller is only selling off a portion of its assets

Under the proposed transaction, the commpany will sell its assets into a newly formed entity. Shareholders will receive 50.1 percent of the shares of the new company.

This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135040 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

The seller is only selling off a portion of its assets


is NOT the same as

quote:

a company you anticpate being bought out/ merged


So, which is it? A company will be bought out or merged? Or a company will sell off a portion of its assets?
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41910 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Or a company will sell off a portion of its assets?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:06 pm to
Then you need to correct your thread's title.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41910 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:17 pm to
Or you could just read the thread contents. Not sure howto word assets being sold off as part of my title
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Not sure howto word assets being sold off as part of my title


"Buying stock in a company you anticipate will be selling a portion of its assets"
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41910 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:29 pm to


now tell me how to handle this situation, please
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

CE Tiger


you're better than this.

You aren't gonna get free stock in a company. Your stock will be replaced.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135040 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:35 pm to
There are too many unknown variables to generalize what will happen to each company's stock price, IMO.

For example: Why is the selling company selling? Are they desperate for cash? What will they use the new cash for, for R&D, to pay down debt, to expand locations or new products or just to meet current operating expenses?

Will the acquiring company be able to generate IRR and additional cash flows on the new assets that exceeded its pre-purchase IRR and cash flows? How long will it take for the improved IRR and cash flows to develop?

Each situation of this type is so unique, I don't think there is a general rule how it will affect each company's stock price.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41910 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 2:41 pm to
If you want details its ITC buying ENTERGY transmission assets
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