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Cheaters in Golf Tournaments: why do you do it?

Posted on 3/22/13 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 5:56 pm
Just watched someone write their name on a longest drive hole not in the fairway and put it a yard inside the first cut.

What is the purpose?
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 6:11 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36270 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 5:58 pm to
What was his reaction after you punched him in the face?
Posted by Flat Stick
Member since Mar 2013
228 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:03 pm to
Was there a giveaway? If so that's the purpose.

Personally I couldn't live in the guilt I would have if I did that. There's nothing worse than golf scramble cheaters. Played in a golf tourney where Tommy 2 Gloves had a team. His squad shot 51 and lost by 4 strokes . Nothing makes me angrier.
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1820 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:03 pm to
Jack Welch fired a man for dropping a ball in the rough claiming he had found it..huge character flaw in my book..pointless to play a lot of 4 man tourneys due to this
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11647 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Just watched someone write their name on a longest drive hole not in the fairway and put it a yard inside the first cut.



i dont play golf, can you explain what this means?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:19 pm to
Scramble I was playing in this afternoon. Hit a 315 drive to the front of a drainage ditch on a long drive hole. Only way to out drive me is to carry the ditch in the air or hit it to the right in the rough.

Long drive holes require you to hit the fairway. The last group out drove me by hitting the ball into the rough. They put the marker into the fairway. I really don't care, it just sucks because scramble tournament golf has evolved into people just trying to cheat.
Posted by lsulefty5
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
903 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:19 pm to
Most scrambles are a sham especially the ones where par is your friend. Anytime someone throws up a non handicapped 55 or less I am skeptical...not so much if tommy 2gloves was in the group though!
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70135 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:59 pm to
People suck. My company tournament is tomorrow and they always have some cheaters. It used to be a 3 man scramble with 2 teams on each hole. Now it is a 4 man scramble with one team per hole....makes cheating much easier.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18877 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

it just sucks because scramble tournament golf has evolved into people just trying to cheat.

It hasn't always been this way? You can't play in scrambles with the hope of winning, just try to have fun and forget about the cheaters.

I played in a non-handicapped charity scramble tournament where two teams tied at 21 under and the scorecards were identical. They did a one hole playoff on a par 4 and none of the 8 players hit their second shot on the green. Both teams made par and then one team made birdie to win on the second hole...everyone watching was laughing at all the lying sacks of shite.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 7:08 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31567 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:13 pm to
I played in one a couple of years ago where long drive ended ip on hole ten on this course. We shot gunned on either 11 or 12, so this was one of the last holes we played. I tried to go long and had one of those moments where everything was on sync and pissed on the ball to the tune of about 325 straight down the pipe.

When we got up to play my ball, the long drive marker was nowhere to be found. I was afraid they had already picked it up. We played our wedge shots to the green, and walked up to find the long drive marker in the second cut on the back side of the green, a good 365 from the tee box and most definitely not per the rules. I went up to take a look at the name, and it was a guy who had a Walmart set of clubs he bought the day before and was playing his first real round of golf. He was playing with a bunch of other hackers.

Bet you can't guess which foursome turned in low gross.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32604 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:14 pm to
dont kno shite about golf.. but cheaters are everywhere.. i play some softball tournaments on saturdays, and grown arse men shave bats, and restitch their softballs "with illegal ones" so they can hit it a few feet further.
Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
6862 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:17 pm to
It amazes me how they put long drive holes that the fairway runs out. I lost one time because i hit the ball on the green, it was deemed out of the fairway.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
11117 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:20 pm to
You also have to love when someone plays their next shot before you decide whose shot the group will choose.
Posted by lsulefty5
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
903 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:25 pm to
Ah yes the ol' let me hit my putt, if iI sink it from 50 feet, thats the one we meant to play...If not, at least we saw the line!
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27882 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

I played in a non-handicapped charity scramble tournament where two teams tied at 21 under and the scorecards were identical. They did a one hole playoff on a par 4 and none of the 8 players hit their second shot on the green.


I always roll my eyes when I hear the grand stories about someones awesome foursome winning every tourney they play yet when you play with each of them individually it's a miracle they get a par the entire round.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:03 pm to
Rarely do I see a team with 4 true ringers win. It's always a group of jackwagons as it was today too. Overheard the guys joking about the long drive too.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:13 pm to
I used to chair the golf tournaments at my club. We would handicap teams, and if someone gave us a bogus handicap (believe me... we called around) we would tell the member that the player could play, but the team handicap would be adjusted to include only 40% of that player's handicap.

Also, we DQ'd members who "won" their flights, but another member would report obvious cheating and rules violations after the "winner" signed his scorecard and turned it in.

Remember this when you are competing against players that are not your friends: DO NOT offer advice. Remain observant. If you see a player do something, you can wait until after they turn in their scorecard to say something. This can also turn into a "he said/he said" situation.

The best course of action when you're playing with someone who flagrantly violates the rules in a tournament is to confide in another player, who will then also watch the cheater. Allow the cheater (consciously or subconsciously) to cheat or break rules. Let them consider that the seven they should have is a five. Let them write it down while you make note on the back of your card.

We had someone win the Championship flight one time, where we advertised in advance, "no club rules, no winter rules...only USGA rules apply." He thought he'd won, and so did everyone else, until his wife, who was there to congratulate him, blurted out to everyone that when her husband had woken up that morning, he'd gone out (they lived on the course) and played the three holes by their house three times for practice and how proud she was that he worked so hard to prepare.

Suddenly, you could have heard a pin drop in that room and the member turned beet red and walked out of the room. We all knew that he knew the rules, so there was nothing we could do but DQ him. It was a very uncomfortable setting, to say the least, but... he should have known better.

Know the rules. Use them to your advantage.
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16265 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

Remember this when you are competing against players that are not your friends: DO NOT offer advice. Remain observant. If you see a player do something, you can wait until after they turn in their scorecard to say something. This can also turn into a "he said/he said" situation.

Do not WAIT to call someone on a rules infraction. If you know the rule, tell the person. There is nothing worse than a pissing match about what a person did two hours ago! Yes you can wait and have the person DQ'd, but I would rather beat him out right, rather than be a little bitch and try to snake him at the end of the round!
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:38 pm to
I'd almost agree, but universally, when someone does this, it creates a confrontation and tension within the group and everyone's performance can then suffer from lack of concentration. Best to just play dumb and let someone hang themselves.

Also, depending on interpretation of the rules, if you influence a person's play by voicing your advice or opinion, you can incur a two-stroke penalty yourself for each violation.
Posted by The Yetty
Member since Feb 2005
12542 posts
Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:42 pm to
The Kappa Klassic is the dirtiest golf tournament you will ever be a part of.
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