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trackfan
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Where did all of the strength of his convictions come from? He claims the war in Iraq was an illegal pre-emptive war. Why did he not refuse to deploy to Iraq if he felt this way? Surely time in prison would have been preferrable to his conscience than commiting crimes against humanity.

Hell has frozen over. You've finally made a point I agree with. There were a number of soldiers who took this route. Did he even ask for conscientious objector status? Even Nidal Hasan asked but unfortunately, he was denied. When Pat Tillman enlisted, he discussed with his brother the possibility that W might pull a bait and switch on him, and that there were people in Washington cooking up nefarious schemes to expand the war beyond Afghanistan. Of course, he died in Afghanistan and not Iraq, but he didn't enlist with his eyes closed to the possibility that he might die doing something other than avenging 9/11.






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RCDfan1950
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The issue of the Iraq war has been politicized; there will always be a polar disparence re the moral/practical aspect of that war with the current war going on to "fundamentally change the nation".

Bottom line. Islamists hit us right in the mouth. Whatcha gonna do; go bomb some poppy farmer peasants in Afghanistan and expect to strike a this-is-what-you'll-get chord with AlQueda and their supporters? Iraq was the ideal target to set a marker. From having a chance to free those folks and have a buffer right in the middle of Islamist land...to removing an EXISTENTIAL (admittedly pre-emptive) threat. And don't forget...OIL, which was very important back then; we didn't realize we had an accessible super stash.

I'm no champion of Bush or Cheney...imo...Bush is a wuss for not defending his (supposed) Conservative Ideology; and Cheney is simply a smart/efficient and pragmatic Capitalist CEO-type who believes in Capitalism and can run a show. The letter writer says more about his own character than that of those two.

Sadly, the Dems have poisoned the man's perspective; as they have their whole demagogic party. They have become Socialist Ideologues, taking us down from within and killing the gooses that lays the prosperity egg...and when this place goes down...they'll end up just like this guy. Defeated, pissed, blaming someone else and in a bad spiritual place chewin on their tongues between curses.

Life is a war against all manner of negative powers. The best thing this man can do is find Jesus; he's in over his head.







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Choctaw
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i think he's incorrect on a few points and he sounds a little bitter.


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Jbird
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Nailed it.





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trackfan
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RCDfan1950, with all due respect, that is one of the most logically incoherent, nonsensical, jingoistic and irrational posts I've ever seen on this site, but I guess it's par for the course for folks of your ilk. How ironic it is of you to invoke Jesus after writing one of the most un-Christian and satanic diatribes I've ever read.





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boosiebadazz
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so you think your boy Jesus was for your (admitted) pre-emptive war to make a point to the Muslims?

does he love the 100,000 dead Iraqis more or less than he loves you?

you're a fricking nutcase, old man. keep hiding behind your supposed faith in god while praising death and destruction





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RCDfan1950
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TF-BD...FWIW, suggesting that the man 'get Jesus' is simply stating a possible alternative to the man's current poisonous pov. Nothing to do with my own cred as a Christian. The Lord will surely judge me BY MY WORDS. That I believe. My pragmatic choices suck; and if someone choose the pacifistic path in good faith, I'd be willing to assume their share of the currently necessary blood-shedding in order to guarantee that the Gospel not be buried.

And in the current scenario, with good consceince being my own guide, I (personally) can not stand on a pacifist soapbox - even withstanding Christ' admonition and warning to do so - and exhort folk to lay down to Islam or the Secularist Statists, and in essence, watch Christianity just go away.

However, that is me...I'll accept my Master's rebuke and judgement in good faith. Christian theology predicts ONE MORE big scrap...and then the Coming (of Truth/Vision). I see no way around it; or no way to *talk* our way into perceiving that particular peaceful vision, given the folk's entrenched worldviews.

And with all due respect, I accept your critique in good faith; and accept you as being a brother in the struggle toward a better world.







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Revelator
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And in the current scenario, with good consceince being my own guide, I (personally) can not stand on a pacifist soapbox - even withstanding Christ' admonition and warning to do so -



Christ also said this RCD


Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.






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boosiebadazz
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so Jesus wants us to kill Muslims?





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Choctaw
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so Jesus wants us to kill Muslims?


that's quite a leap there, Michael Jordan






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Revelator
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so Jesus wants us to kill Muslims?



It was simply a prophesy of the hard times that was about to fall on the disciples and followers of Christ.






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boosiebadazz
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RCD is telling me to pick up a gun and fight the muslims

and Revelator said jesus said thats ok





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RCDfan1950
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BD...if you haven't noticed...God (assuming that Intellect/Consiousness/Spirit is the essence of Reality) is the ultimate justification of the 'end justifies the means'. Pretty obvious.

There is indeed a "time for ALL things". Sad to say, painful to experience and hard to comprehend without the help of the Holy Spirit of Truth...but that's it. And all the Secular?Authoritarian/Utopian dreams and unfullfilled expectations therein, won't change the nature of Man and the consequences therein. Free will, necessary evil and wailing and gnashing of teeth will come to pass...on our way 'up'.

Hell...you wouldn't want to go to a boring movie anyway, huh? Why live in a movie...how bout being in the real thing? You are. Big stuff goin on here...assuming one sees it that way.

Gotta paint!






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boosiebadazz
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BD...if you haven't noticed...God (assuming that Intellect/Consiousness/Spirit is the essence of Reality) is the ultimate justification of the 'end justifies the means'. Pretty obvious.

There is indeed a "time for ALL things". Sad to say, painful to experience and hard to comprehend without the help of the Holy Spirit of Truth...but that's it. And all the Secular?Authoritarian/Utopian dreams and unfullfilled expectations therein, won't change the nature of Man and the consequences therein. Free will, necessary evil and wailing and gnashing of teeth will come to pass...on our way 'up'.

Hell...you wouldn't want to go to a boring movie anyway, huh? Why live in a movie...how bout being in the real thing? You are. Big stuff goin on here...assuming one sees it that way.




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Gotta paint!


oh, so you ate some killer acid back in the day?

now all your unintelligible garble makes sense






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RCDfan1950
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quote:Gotta paint! oh, so you ate some killer acid back in the day? now all your unintelligible garble makes sense


Only to me, Boos. So Don't worry ...it ain't contagious. And it was shrooms mostly; didn't like the acid. Too easy...fluffy. I prefer the serious version of life.







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Blue Velvet
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You need professional help.





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NC_Tigah
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Dying vet writes scathing letter to George Bush and Dick Cheney
Why George Bush and Dick Cheney?






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RCDfan1950
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[quote]You need professional help.[/quote]

For what, BV? To be *normal*. Uhhh...think I'll pass. Worked my arse off to escape that. You can have my share though!

Good luck.






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